Re: [Assam] National Geographic's Genomic Map- Aryan Invasion Theory

2006-09-13 Thread Barua25
See the map for 1BC --does it show any migrationfrom Central Asia towards Iran or India? No! OOPS! Umesh, Looks like NG has missed it by couple of thousands years. The said migration supposedly took place during last 2000 to 5000 BC. RB   - Original Message - From: "umesh shar

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Right! After Discussions are over-Either way- a renaming will have to come -- mm From:  Rajib Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC:  Assam@assamnet.orgSubject:  Re: [Assam] Book on life,ideals of Sankar

Re: [Assam] [asom] HELLO@@@@@@@@

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Netters think! She is a daring innovator! Welcome once again mm   From:  sweetylipsforyou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject:  RE: [asom] HELLODate:  Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT) thnx mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:            Helo! to you t

Re: [Assam] [asom] HELLO@@@@@@@@

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Helo! to you too    Lipika, Stay with this net as long as you wish .And let your mind blow its postings  out  with challenges, rejoinders,experiences, innovations . All your friends are welcome too. The more,he merrier!     Bet you can bring a whiff of fresh air of Youth to this  group- which

Re: [Assam] [asom] HELLO@@@@@@@@

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Helo! to you too    Lipika, Stay with this net as long as you wish .And let your mind blow its postings  out  with challenges, rejoinders,experiences, innovations . All your friends are welcome too. The more,he merrier!     Bet you can bring a whiff of fresh air of Youth to this  group- which

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Rajib Das
A rudimentary question: Does the ULFA write it as Oxom or Assam or Asom? Should be ULFO going by the discussion here! --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva > released(>*** About the 'Sankaradeva' spelling for > example, could it have been that w

[Assam] comprehensive survey of all 30 states of India

2006-09-13 Thread Barua25
Message from one firend in Assam: FYI RB   -- India Today, the undisputed number 1 magazine of India conducted a comprehensive survey of all 30 states for the fourth consecutive year and results were announced at the INDIA TODAY CHIEF MINISTERS CONCLAVE where

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Barua25
Title: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released( >*** About the 'Sankaradeva' spelling for example, could it have been that when the first British colonial masters >transliterated the name, were also people who were Xongskrit learners, and could not separate the Assamese  fro

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
That exactly is the point in my email. Some netters are debating over transliteration of Asm ("Oxom") in English script, when there are so many Indian languages in the neighboring states in which the transliteration is not possible without explanation, as you just stated. Is it something like let

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,   >*** And here enters the sheep factor: Because someone used it in the past, > without any rationale, should thinking and able >individuals in the present >time who can see better, ought to keep following the same path too?   Just being the devil's advocate - how can we assume that someone

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Barua25
No two languages have exactly the same sounds. A sound in one language may seem similiar to another sound of another language but there is always a difference.   Many languages are plainly deficient in many sounds from other languages. In such cases these languages simply cannot write the c

Re: [Assam] National Geographic's Genomic Map- Aryan Invasion Theory

2006-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
Pl also see the era from 60,000BCE to 50,000BCE --the change --which reveals that From Africa the movement towards the east -- was towards Iran and then branched out --up towards Central Asia and East towards India. In 50,000 BCE shows the migration of the Central Asians towards China, Siberia etc.

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
DD's assumptions are on the mark. If Hindi were to become more influential then logically the target market would be Hindiwallas. Would we then suddenly start trying to find alphabets in Hindi tomorrow with fit the mold (something close to X)?   Also, if the intent is to make non-native Assamese i

[Assam] Bush on Sep 11

2006-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060911-3.htmlUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 USACurrent temp. address: 5649 Yalta Place , Vancouver, Canada 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Canada # (607) 221-9433Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Educa

Re: [Assam] Wish Chandra Sekhar a bright future on to real SCIENCE

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Mukul da,   That was hilarious. That made up for not such a great day. Thanks   --Ram  On 9/13/06, mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: THIS WAS FOUND AS I WAS CLEANING UP.  CAME FROM SOME ASSAMNETTER?    Chandra sekhar's FIRST DAY AT SCHOOL IN USA It was the first day of school and a new stude

[Assam] Wish Chandra Sekhar a bright future on to real SCIENCE

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
THIS WAS FOUND AS I WAS CLEANING UP.  CAME FROM SOME ASSAMNETTER?    Chandra sekhar’s FIRST DAY AT SCHOOL IN USA It was the first day of school and a new student named ChandrashekharSubrahmanyam entered the fourth grade. The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American History. "Who said

Re: [Assam] From NY Times

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
< Since the two(SCIENCES) could reside in a person, side by side, unless, the Ornithology is driven or controlled by the Astrology, like the earthquake predictor's Geology was driven by Hindu Astrophysics ( unlike regular Astrophysics) resulting in pushing the panic button due to the impending cala

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
?> They will have to  change to speak Oxomiya like an Oxomiya. They are already trying hard!  Need Harder. mm From:  Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:  Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED], Assam@assamnet.orgSubject:  Re: [Assam] Book

[Assam] National Geographic's Genomic Map- Aryan Invasion Theory

2006-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html Excellent use of technology by IBM etc !! See the map for 1BC --does it show any migration from Central Asia towards Iran or India? No! One can disscern some interaction between India and Iran -which were neighboring countries till

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
Let's assume for a moment that Assam remains in India for a few more decades and Hindi language keeps the position it has now. :-) How would you transliterate "Oxom" in Hindi script to get Hindi speakers to pronounce the name like they do in Assam? How do you do it in Bengali? Just my tangential

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(T Ram: >There is no rationale. *** My point exactly :-). >One think so, as they ought to be ones telling us how to spell and pronounce. *** And here enters the sheep factor: Because someone used it in the past, without any rati

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,   >But the question is WHY? What is the logic, the rationale?   There is no rationale. Such issues are only relevant for the intelligentsia. For the common folks this is just another nuance. Tell me why a khetiok working in his parched lands would want to apply any logic in this regard?   >*

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(T >Many people often pronounce it one way (like Xonkrordev or Xonkrordeb), but >when they write it in English, they write it differently (Sankaradeva). *** I noticed. Tell me something I don't know :-). But the question is WHY? Wh

Re: [Assam] From NY Times

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] From NY Times O' Ram: I understand that desperate need to stick something on me. But this kind of attempts won't stick on my teflon coated, albeit unpleasant-to-some logic . You have got to try harder :-). c-da At 1:50 PM -0500 9/13/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: >"

Re: [Assam] From NY Times

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] From NY Times Naaah! Astronomy and Ornithology  are both SCIENCES, neither being Hindu Science :-). Even if the former were to be Astrology, it still would not matter. Since the two could reside in a person, side by side, unless, the Ornithology is driven or controlled by the

Re: [Assam] Book review:Zoroastrians , Christians, Muslims, Mongols etc - Irani history

2006-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da, The book is really good esp the history of Iran --but its first chapter which compares Iranian history with Indian history - if faulty but nonetheless interesting -how the language is so similar -words likes devas, asuras, gathas, etc are used in both cultures but with different meanings

Re: [Assam] From NY Times

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
>".an astronomer as well as amateur ornithologist." -- oh, oh, Hindu >science again?   Hehehe! That is exactly what I thought. Then I thought, maybe, just maybe, C'da was trying to promote Hindu science:)   --Ram     On 9/13/06, Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ".

Re: [Assam] NYTimes: Zoroastrians , Christians, Muslims, Mongols etc - Irani history

2006-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
Rajen-da, The book is really good esp the history of Iran --but its first chapter which compares Iranian history with Indian history - if faulty but nonetheless interesting -how the language is so similar -words likes devas, asuras, gathas, etc are used in both cultures but with different meanings

Re: [Assam] From NY Times

2006-09-13 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
".an astronomer as well as amateur ornithologist." -- oh, oh, Hindu science again? ===Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A New Bird Species Is Confirmed in IndiaBy THE ASSOCIATED PRESSPublished: Septe

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da.   >>---why they should follow your or my path to spellings and transliteration.   >*** Anyone endowed with an ability to reason, and knowledgeably ( about >the subject matter) ought to go by what is LOGICAL, not necessarily by >what Rajen suggests or I support   They have the ability to reaso

[Assam] Latest development on Sankardev chair:Today's announcement by CM of Rs 10, 00, 000

2006-09-13 Thread Buljit Buragohain
Here is the latest development of Sankardev chair at Delhi University.arnabjan deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:One latest development.   Today on 13 September 2006, at afternoon, the chief Minster's office contacted me over phone and informed me in advance that Chief Minsiter had gone through

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, ...

2006-09-13 Thread BBaruah
Dear Chandan/Ram/Rajen/MKD/Mike  et al   Asam Sahitya Sabha has the best credentials possible as a broad-based democratic institution. It has been active since 1917 when it was founded. It is dedicated to preserving and promoting indigenous languages and cultures of Assam and is apolitical.

[Assam] From NY Times / BE SCARED! BE VERY SCARED!!

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Modern Ways Open India's Doors to Diabetes Namas Bhojani for The New York Times A taste for sweets, like those in this bakery, and the growing popularity of fried and processed foods are contributing to diabetes in India. By N. R. KLEINFIELD Published: September 13, 2006 CHENNAI, India -

[Assam] Need for a technical university

2006-09-13 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
Need for a technical university — Biren Das Scientific Policy Resolution by the Parliament in 1958 set forth the vision for science and technical education as “the key to national property, apart from the spirit of the people, lies, in the modern age, in the effective combination of the factors – t

Re: [Assam] Need for a technical university-Biren Das(The Assam Tribune, 13.09.2006)

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Let's discuss this! *** Firstly thanks to( untiringly) Umesh Sharma sent us this: Please read it al   -as then we can pit the cutting edge against the blunt one: Windows HS: Microsoft designs a school system POSTED: 9:25 p.m. EDT, September 7, 2006 88

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(T Ram: >---why they should follow your or my path to spellings and transliteration. *** Anyone endowed with an ability to reason, and knowledgeably ( about the subject matter) ought to go by what is LOGICAL, not necessarily by what

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi Manoj,  >Nonetheless we needn't have changed "Assam" to "Asom"- which >is a very old brand.   I totally agree with you. However, you or I will find little or no interest here or even in Assam. I even talked to quite a few people, and NGOs in Guwahati, some quite influential,  about this. The usu

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Manoj Das
Hello Ramda   Being from Upper Assam with a "daath jeeva"- it's really difficult for me and likes of me to pronounce the xangskritised Axomiya language, as done by say, Hironda (Hiron Dutta) of All India Radio. I personally would have been more comfortable with something "bechi gaonlia' like "Okkho

[Assam] The martyrdom of Jatin Das

2006-09-13 Thread Pradip Kumar Datta
The martyrdom of Jatin DasAll, 13th September marks the 77th anniversary of the martyrdom of Jatin Das, the associate of Shaheed Bhagat Singh. It is well-known that Jatin Das died after a hunger-strike of 61 days while jailed in Lahore prison with Bhagat Singh and their other comrades for the L

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,   Bhuban da and Manoj do make some good points. Yes, you and Barua are probably right about the 'subject mentality' and also how 'Assam' got mis-transliterated.   Like it or not, OXX has been bestowed the 'literary authority' as it consists of most of the famous literary figures in Assam. No

[Assam] A conversation with Amartya Sen - Outlook India

2006-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
http://outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=1&fodname=20060821&fname=EAmartya+%28F%29&sid=1   For those who may be interested, this makes good reading. Magazine| Aug 21, 2006 conversation'Hope India Now Doesn't Get Too Hung Up On Cultivating Power To Feel For

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released( Dear BK: I can't see HOW the Oxom Xahityo Xobha could become the sole custodian of the Assamese language or the Assamese identity. It is typical of desi-demokrasy, where elections seem to bestow dictatorial/monarchical powers to

[Assam] Yahoo! News Story - New multicolored bird found in India - Yahoo! News

2006-09-13 Thread Jugal
Jugal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has sent you a news article. (Email address has not been verified.) Personal message: New multicolored bird found in India - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060912/ap_on_sc/india_new_bird

[Assam] Link between Earth Thunderstorms and Ionospheric RayStorms

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Isn't it new knowledge? ! ADVERTISEMENT     Connection Found Between the Earth and Space Weather Plasma bands in the ionosphere. Image credit: NASA Click to enlargeResearchers have found a connection between weather here on Earth, and the weather in space. The connection comes

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread BBaruah
Dear MKD/Mike et al   It appears the State Government sought Asam Sahitya Sabha’s views on the matter of renaming Assam. It is possible without the benefit of wide discussion and debate the Sahitya Sabha recommended the change to Asom and the State Government accepted it.   Perhaps even now

Re: [Assam] 'Assam' is an Indonesian Dish

2006-09-13 Thread Santanoo Medhi
Title: Bawarchi: Contributions: Prawns Udang Goreng Assam (Indonesian) well. this dish is also popular in Singapore and Malaysia. This one tastes like a cross between :tom yam of Thailand"and our ""tenga" I have not eaten the version with prawns as I have seen mostly that they dish with made

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread mc mahant
Manoj Dear, I think we need only to keep at it without compromising--the good word of free , rational thinking will spread and finally with one push the change will be done--like Tarun Gogoi tried-and failed albeit due to its irrationality.  Even Naming some innocent as initiator of this  Brillian

[Assam] Stalinist mind set of keeping Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia under feet with brutal force by the USSR is being reflected here. India, it is time to learn from history that the mighty Mugh

2006-09-13 Thread Bartta Bistar
Ulfa dilemma: to talk or not http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/1940 Wed, 2006-09-13 01:37 By Vinod Vedi - Syndicate Features With the Assam Government, with the concurrence of the Centre, stating categorically that the proposed dialogue on all issues with the banned outfit United Libe

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread Manoj Das
Dear Bhubanda   The arguments put forward by a few in the Assamnet are too sophisticated for the common people of Assam to comprehend. Putting 'x' for the guttaral (?) 's' will unleash another havoc. 'X' will most probably be pronounced as in 'ox'. Why not conduct a survey? Buy it will cost money,

Re: [Assam] Book on life, ideals of Sankaradeva released(The Assam Tribune, 1...

2006-09-13 Thread BBaruah
Rajen   I feel I have the background to join issue with you but only for the first part of your query, not the second, which warrants, I suppose, an independent treatment.   From Dr Birinchi Kumar Barua to Jyoti Prasad Rajkhowa, if not Dr Audrey Cantlie, all have used the spelling ‘Sankarade