Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
> >One was killed in army custody, while the other was killed by >assilaints in the crowd seeking justice for Mahanta. >I am not sure if the family of Ojha feel any better or worse because >of that subtle difference. *** And that is why for the rest of us--it is NOT the same! At 8:2

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da, >Yes, ALL deaths carry grief. But the CAUSES are NOT all the same.. >Top attempt to make them out  be the same is either profoundly >ignorant--not a persuasive condition , or is disingenuous.   No one has attempted to equate the 'causes' of the deaths of Mahanta or Ojha (the CRPF).   One wa

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy Yes, ALL deaths carry grief. But the CAUSES are NOT all the same. A victim of an auto accident is not the same as a death from a fatal illness is not the same from a death from a fight over passion is not the same as a death of a soldier in

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Priyankoo,   >2. Any killing is condemnable be it in the hands of ULFA or Army. Whats important is the >message behind the killings. I can readily agree with you here. But what is the message that you refer to behind the killings? I am not sure I get that.   --Ram da       On 13 Feb 2006 05:28:06 -

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread priyankoo sarma
Ramda, I think the CRPF man was some Ojha. However it does not make any difference as you said all killings are equally deplorable. Again, the point I am trying to raise here is that: 1. There is no ilitary solution to the Assam problem 2. Any killing is condemnable be it in the hands of ULFA or

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread priyankoo sarma
Ramda, I think the CRPF man was some Ojha. However it does not make any difference as you said all killings are equally deplorable. Again, the point I am trying to raise here is that: 1. There is no military solution to the Assam problem 2. Any killing is condemnable be it in the hands of ULFA o

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Priyankoo,   There is only one quirk here. The army jawan that was killed was a kharkhowa Assamese (a Gohain, if I recollect). Now, would that make any difference?   Priyankoo, all killing is deplorable, but sadly there is usually no outpouring grief if it happens to be an army personnel. To me all

[Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread priyankoo sarma
>>Nobody really cares if an army jawan was killed or how many are killed. It doesn't matter if he was NOT the one involved in the killing of Mahanta. All that matters is that he is in the Indian army. It was his own damn fault for joining the Indian army and getting imbroiled in the mess. Exactly

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Umesh,   >However, it seems from the newsmedia that in the rallies that followed Mahanta's death -- >innocents were puished towards the army bullets while ULFA cadre killed and injured the CRPF >soldiers etc in the melee .   Nobody really cares if an army jawan was killed or how many are killed. It

Re: [Assam] Compassionate?! army and democracy

2006-02-12 Thread umesh sharma
I would say that it was good that so many people raised the issue of Ajit Mahanta's unfortunate death -even if he had been guilty he should have been subjected to a proper trial. It is under pressure only that so many Army officials are not able to sleep at night and doing something to pacify.