Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,> In this instance, IF you or the 'offended intelligentsia' can show, >how the arguments I or Rajen presented, in regard to choosing to >Sanskritize Oxomiya names, sounds and words before >transliterating in English, are wrong, or  inappropriate or without any >basis, then they can certainly t

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew Hi Ram: I wasn't trying to spin at all - just saying things as I read tem. And the turnip truck thingie hopefully works for all spinners :), and knowing netters, I am sure it does. *** I am sure you were not. But sometimes these slippery things go onto the

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
O C'a, >*** You are free to spin it any which way you wish. That is the >beauty of this forum. However, we must no forget that those who >are >watching and judging, aren't exactly people who just fell off a >turnip truck and will be willing to be spun out to dry. I wasn't trying to spin at all -

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew At 3:54 PM -0500 9/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Thank you C'da. *** Don't mention it Ram. The pleasure was all mine . >The truth of the matter is that even if the appropriate transliterations had existed, some >of would have found an issue with some other

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Thank you C'da.   >The English have long gone from Assam and have no colonial aspirations over it any more. But Indians do, and thus the >attempt to keep Oxomiya names Sanskritized would make one suspicious of the action as as a means for holding Assam safe for >Indian controls . How's that for a c

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew Ram: At 11:51 AM -0500 9/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da,   >NOT constitute an insult to the Assamese language and to the Assamese >identity? WHAT is the logic?   That should cause indignation and people should tell the papers that the Newspapers have the

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Rajib,  >About English being the influence as opposed to Hindi>or Sanskrit - it might not be such a bad idea in the>minds of some of the people making some of the posts.   If it were English, some of us would have been elated that Assamese was being Anglicized. But is is Sanskrit - so the 'principl

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Rajib Das
Ramda, The sanctity of the language is an integral component of identity. As to how the language is represented in the Roman script, whether it is Sanskritized or Anglicized, or even how it is represented in its own script is shaped by which direction the identity is going. We all know identity is

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da,  >NOT constitute an insult to the Assamese language and to the Assamese >identity? WHAT is the logic?   That should cause indignation and people should tell the papers that the Newspapers have the responsibility to write such names in proper transliterated English - which must represent spok

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew O'Ram: WHY would not a Sanskritized ( or Hindified or whatever non-indigenous form) name of the singular icon of Assameseness,flaunted by one of Assam's flagship newspapers NOT constitute an insult to the Assamese language and to the Assamese identity? WHAT i

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-17 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Barua,  >Tt is as simple as that. >Question of identity comes later.   Now it seems you are getting the point. I was NOT the one who brought "identity" into this discussion. Some netters did, so I wanted to know their reasoning behind that.   Thanks   Ram       On 9/16/06, Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-16 Thread Barua25
Ram: If your name is Ram, you want people to call you Ram, and not Rama or Rhama. Tt is as simple as that. Question of identity comes later. Thanks Rajen Barua   - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Barua25 Cc: Chan Mahanta ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Dilip/Dil Dek

Re: [Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-16 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Barua, >The way you are advocating for the Sanskrit spelling '>Sankaradeva' against Assamese spelling 'Xongkordew', is >same as advocating for (say) the spelling 'Pankaradeba' in >place of 'Xongordew'      I advocated NO SUCH THING. You are once again putting words in my mouth. Show me where I sa

[Assam] Sankaradeva vs Xongkordew

2006-09-15 Thread Barua25
>I had prefaced my argument with "devil's advocate' and my feelings on this are:   >Is writing out "Sankaradeva" not appropriate because >(a) We know better now - it should be Xonkordeva >(b) Because it is Sankritized (and we want nothing to do with that) >(c) Its an identity crises   Ram: I