Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-25 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-25 4:53 AM, GrayHat wrote: > exactly my point; it doesn't make sense imHo allowing users to > change their passwords w/o checking them and then reject the > emails due to "weak passwords"; the password issue must be > dealt with at mailserver level I don't think Matti meant that these s

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-25 Thread GrayHat
>> ASSP is much more then a spamfilter (as you should know). >> It provides Mail Routing, SSL, Virusscanning, connection >> shaping and lots more usefull functions. > Surely the testing for weak passwords should be done at the > point that the password is changed - not somewhere else later >

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-25 Thread Andrew Porter
On 24/06/10 15:44, Matti Haack wrote: > ASSP is much more then a spamfilter (as you should know). It provides > Mail Routing, SSL, Virusscanning, connection shaping and lots more usefull > functions. > Surely the testing for weak passwords should be done at the point that the password is chan

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-25 Thread Matti Haack
Hello Greyhat, there is no way in the API to access Hmailserver passwords - and hmailserver only stores hashes in it's DB. Of course, it would be easy to change the Admin Script. But so we would have a solution covering any MTA. On My system I never had an issue with weak passwords

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-25 Thread GrayHat
> BTW Greyhat, could you be so kind and tell me wich > application can test for weak passwords in connection > with hmailserver? It seems as you have great experience > with some appliances who would manage this. I think you'll have to look at the hMailServer "scripting" the program expos

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Matti Haack
ASSP is much more then a spamfilter (as you should know). It provides Mail Routing, SSL, Virusscanning, connection shaping and lots more usefull functions. On my machine, toasting coffe and cleaning up the room runs fine :) But it would be great if it also checks for weak passwords. I think thi

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread GrayHat
> Weak Passwords are in the top 10 reasons for relaying spam. So I fell > this could be part of ASSP No, sorry, assp is a SPAMFILTER not a way to allow brain-dead admins to plug some kind of "silver bullet" on their network and feel better just because "they installed something"; if you want or n

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Matti Haack
Weak Passwords are in the top 10 reasons for relaying spam. So I fell this could be part of ASSP Matti >>> Good idea, but why not just use cracklib or something that is already >>> designed and well tested for something like this: >> >>> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Cracklib/Cracklib.pm >>

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread GrayHat
>> Good idea, but why not just use cracklib or something that is already >> designed and well tested for something like this: > >> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Cracklib/Cracklib.pm > This would be helpful too. Nope; I don't think so, see... ASSP is a *spamfilter* not some kind of "universal

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Matti Haack
Hello Thomas, > I still not understand, what this should be for!? The SMTP password (used > in the AUTH command) are stored and checked at the MTA - why should assp > check its weakness, if the MTA should do this at the time when it is > specfied? You are right. But many MTAs have no option t

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Thomas Eckardt
eff: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning Hello, would it be possible to check incomming SMTP Passwords against a list of regexes and send a warning to the logfile if matching? Additionatly it would be good to check the PW not to be the user part or a substring of the userpart of

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-24 6:31 AM, Matti Haack wrote: >> Good idea, but why not just use cracklib or something that is already >> designed and well tested for something like this: >> >> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Cracklib/Cracklib.pm > This would be helpful too. > But I think ASSP already includes lot

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Matti Haack
> Good idea, but why not just use cracklib or something that is already > designed and well tested for something like this: > http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Cracklib/Cracklib.pm This would be helpful too. But I think ASSP already includes lot of code to check regexes, so a simple regex text

Re: [Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-06-24 6:08 AM, Matti Haack wrote: > would it be possible to check incomming SMTP Passwords against a list > of regexes and send a warning to the logfile if matching? > > Additionatly it would be good to check the PW not to be the user part > or a substring of the userpart of the email ad

[Assp-test] Feature request: Weak Password Warning

2010-06-24 Thread Matti Haack
Hello, would it be possible to check incomming SMTP Passwords against a list of regexes and send a warning to the logfile if matching? Additionatly it would be good to check the PW not to be the user part or a substring of the userpart of the email adress and the domain name. As many mailserv