Re: [Assp-user] ASSP 1.4.3.1 released on SF

2008-12-03 Thread Alex Davidson
Thanks to everyone for the Perl suggestions. I ended up installing Strawberry and having similar issues. I eventually discovered a mis-configured firewall was blocking the .gz downloads! Once I fixed that everything started working. Kinda embarrassing. I apologize for suggesting the script

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008, Hill, Brett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If you're talking about stripping off attachments for emails with > viruses or malware, why would you want to give your users access to that > content? Sounds pretty daring if you ask me. thats not what I mean. Of *course* this functionalit

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Hill, Brett
Charles Marcus wrote: > Actually, we are (or at least *I* am) talking about the > ability to strip off (*not* simply block) attachments *and > dump them into a web accessible directory somewhere*, *and > add some text with a hyperlink to the attachment so the > recipient can download it*. I do

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008 6:54 AM, Fritz Borgstedt wrote: >> I'm NOT saying that attachment stripping 'belongs' here, I'm just >> saying that if it can do it reliably, then it is a viable >> candidate. >> >> I think Fritz already said he wasn't interested in such a feature, so >> its a moot point anyway... >

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008 6:41 AM, Fritz Borgstedt wrote: >> I would *never* allow those through *any* mail system - but, to each >> his/her own... > why not? Are you blocking your users from downloading .exe from the > internet too? Yep... only admins can do that. In my opinion, in a corporate environment,

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re:Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread Hill, Brett
GrayHat wrote: > well; I don't think that stripping attachments is a job for > ASSP, all in all such a feature has nothing to do with junk > email filtering :) Just to add my 2 cents worth. I disagree. I use attachment stripping in my environment. My firewall currently does it by way of prox

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy schreibt: >My comments re: ASSP being a viable candidate for the job of strpping >attachments stands... The text on the assp 2 site says:. NEW FEATURES - email interface for add/remove spamlovers - cron-like scheduler for builtin-rebu

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment strippin g - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
GrayHat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreibt: >I disagree; what you call "more than filtering" is just a "side >effect" >of some >of the mechanisms used by ASSP to filter messages; on the other hand, >stripping attachments or even blocking them by size isn't imVHo a job >for >ASSP, but for the backend MTA;

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
>I would *never* allow those through *any* mail system - but, to each >his/her own... why not? Are you blocking your users from downloading .exe from the internet too? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Mov

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy schreibt: >I'm NOT saying that attachment stripping 'belongs' here, I'm just >saying >that if it can do it reliably, then it is a viable candidate. > >I think Fritz already said he wasn't interested in such a feature, so >its a moot poin

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008, GrayHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Exactly ! So, if you setup the MTA to refuse messages over a given size, > the MTA will emit an SMTP error and you'll have your reject; I can't see > where's the problem ! You aren't generating bounces, just rejecting the > message due to "policy r

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread GrayHat
> But if the MTA is going to reject a message, that rejection should occur > at SMTP time. Exactly ! So, if you setup the MTA to refuse messages over a given size, the MTA will emit an SMTP error and you'll have your reject; I can't see where's the problem ! You aren't generating bounces, just rej

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008, GrayHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > what you call "more than filtering" is just a "side effect" of some > of the mechanisms used by ASSP to filter messages; I disagree... CONVERTING one file type to another is certainly NOT a normal function of an anti-spam filter - and as for it

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread GrayHat
>> well; I don't think that stripping attachments is a job for ASSP, all in >> all such a feature has nothing to do with junk email filtering :) > Neither does IETF conversion... this is why I proposed it - since ASSP > is already doing more than junk mail filtering, *and* is the initial > point o

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008 3:29 AM, GrayHat wrote: > well; I don't think that stripping attachments is a job for ASSP, all in > all such a feature has nothing to do with junk email filtering :) Neither does IETF conversion... this is why I proposed it - since ASSP is already doing more than junk mail filtering,

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/3/2008 3:57 AM, Fritz Borgstedt wrote: > GrayHat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreibt: >> On the other hand, attachment *blocking* imVHo is good to have >> and isn't "something from the past" :) consider that recent malware >> mutates quickly, so an AV may not be able to detect a new variant >> of a

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread GrayHat
> IMHO it is VERY outdated. not totally :) > I do not do it now for several years. I have NEVER experienced such a > scenario. in a quite recent past there were "waves" of malware pumped out by bots, the attachments were quite small and their signatures changed from message to message and for a

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment strippin g - WAS: Re: Random proble

2008-12-03 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
GrayHat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreibt: >On the other hand, attachment *blocking* imVHo is good to have >and isn't "something from the past" :) consider that recent malware >mutates quickly, so an AV may not be able to detect a new variant >of a given worm; this in turn means that blocking "executabl

Re: [Assp-user] Feature Request: Attachment stripping - WAS: Re: Random problem w

2008-12-03 Thread GrayHat
> Duplicate attachments are a "big" problem at my day job, but > other than attempting to train the end users to store the files on > the network, and working off these files (at least when they are > in the office), instead of emailing them back and forth, not much > else I can do about it. well;