Re: [Assp-user] PDF spam

2007-08-09 Thread Michael Parker
> On 8/9/2007, Michael Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I've started using the sanesecurity clam signatures - as discussed on > > this list a few weeks back - and they are excellent. Really easy to > > set up and do a great job. > > > > My problem, as a back lash of this though, is that I'm ge

Re: [Assp-user] PDF spam

2007-08-09 Thread Charles Marcus
On 8/9/2007, Michael Parker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I've started using the sanesecurity clam signatures - as discussed on > this list a few weeks back - and they are excellent. Really easy to > set up and do a great job. > > My problem, as a back lash of this though, is that I'm getting > bo

Re: [Assp-user] PDF spam

2007-08-09 Thread Michael Parker
> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 12:10:49 +0200 > From: "GrayHat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Assp-user] PDF spam > > a temporary solution may be changing the > level 2 attachment to include "pdf" and setting the > external level to 2 and the whitelisted

Re: [Assp-user] PDF spam

2007-08-09 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
GrayHat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreibt: >I wonder how do you handle that; lately there's >a whole lot of such spam around and it isn't easy >to stop; a temporary solution may be changing the >level 2 attachment to include "pdf" and setting the >external level to 2 and the whitelisted to 1, this will

[Assp-user] PDF spam

2007-08-09 Thread GrayHat
I wonder how do you handle that; lately there's a whole lot of such spam around and it isn't easy to stop; a temporary solution may be changing the level 2 attachment to include "pdf" and setting the external level to 2 and the whitelisted to 1, this will stop PDF mails from "unknown" senders but t

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-03 Thread Dickson, Paul
LOL! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeroen van Aart Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:32 PM To: Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy Subject: Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM Dickson, Paul wrote: > I tend to think t

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Jeroen van Aart wrote: > I suggest that employing a large workforce of human beings, scanning > each email, is the most effective anti spam solution. Maybe this is a > good business set up for a new startup? I have never failed to identify > spam, neither had any false positives. I suggest an a

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Dickson, Paul wrote: > I tend to think that would be detrimental to the server load, and way > overkill. Not to mention, email is a broad enough target as it is to > classify correctly.. I can't imagine trying to intelligently classify > something with exponentially greater variances. I suggest

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
>Since it's a streaming check, I don't think it >would have to read the whole file attachment in order to know it's a >virus, spam or whatever, since it's just looking for known signatures. >Correct me if I'm wrong. ASSP passes AVBYTES to clamd.

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Dickson, Paul
's db?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickson, Paul Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:13 AM To: Matti Haack; Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy Subject: Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM I tend to think that would be detrimen

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Dickson, Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matti Haack Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:53 AM To: Questions and Answers for users of ASSP Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy Subject: Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM > If it had to stop and save each message to disk, extract the pdf, > analyze it, t

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Kevin
Hill, Brett wrote: >> But I think the virusscanning just do this: scan the whole message > and them forward it. So why not handle an "Atachment content > scan" like virusscanning? Maybe we can use the same data passed to clamd > and do a content scan. > > Doesn't Virus Scanning only sca

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Hill, Brett
> But I think the virusscanning just do this: scan the whole message and them forward it. So why not handle an "Atachment content scan" like virusscanning? Maybe we can use the same data passed to clamd and do a content scan. Doesn't Virus Scanning only scan the first ?% of a file (not

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Kevin
Matti Haack wrote: >> If it had to stop and save each message to disk, extract the pdf, >> analyze it, then deliver it if it passes.it would just be slower >> than a snail stuck in molasses in the arctic, and it would'nt work. > But I think the virusscanning just do this: scan the whole mes

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Matti Haack
> If it had to stop and save each message to disk, extract the pdf, > analyze it, then deliver it if it passes.it would just be slower > than a snail stuck in molasses in the arctic, and it would'nt work. But I think the virusscanning just do this: scan the whole message and them forward i

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Kevin
Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Doug Lytle wrote: >> I'm seeing a large number of those PDF spams now coming across zipped. > > There is a new rash of PDF spams going around that are (AFAIK) > incomplete attachments. i.e., they attachment is there, but the > messages are missing the header informati

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Kevin
Matti Haack wrote: > Would it be possible to use File::Extract::PDF to analyze pdf > attachments with the basian and bombre filters? > > Additionatly there are more File::Extract filters which could be > usefull: > http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/File-Extract/ ASSP doesn't deal wit

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Matti Haack
Would it be possible to use File::Extract::PDF to analyze pdf attachments with the basian and bombre filters? Additionatly there are more File::Extract filters which could be usefull: http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/File-Extract/ Matti > Doug Lytle wrote: >> I'm seeing a large num

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Doug Lytle wrote: > I'm seeing a large number of those PDF spams now coming across zipped. There is a new rash of PDF spams going around that are (AFAIK) incomplete attachments. i.e., they attachment is there, but the messages are missing the header information pointing to the attachment. And as

Re: [Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-01 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
>"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little >Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." agreed. fritz - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to f

[Assp-user] PDF SPAM

2007-08-01 Thread Doug Lytle
Interesting, I'm seeing a large number of those PDF spams now coming across zipped. SaneSecurity is still picking them off though. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -