Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Steve Totaro
I don't have an iPod or i(anything). I am not complaining about the price, I like the price, it means I can offer a telephony platform that is validated by 3Com, use the nice glossy tri-folds and then sell them my solution after making obvious comparisons and make more money. I would still sell a

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of aKeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Craig Lawrence
I really don't agree with the comments that suggest the 3com unit is overpriced. I'd except that a 3com certified reseller would be proposing a couple of different 3com systems to each customer. A standard key system and a VoIP system possibly. The margins and pricing on the traditional system wou

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:05:51PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:31 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > > > I will give Jay the benefit of the doubt, but he is usually very quick > > > to reply these k

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 06:01:33PM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > > They can't protect IAX and DUNDi that way, I'm pretty sure; the > > *protocols* would be stock, and therefore not violate the license -- > > but since usage of those particular terms is almost certainly > > nominative any

Re: [asterisk-biz] Looking for IAX2 A-Z providers

2008-06-04 Thread Daniel Diaz
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Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Alex Balashov
Gregory Boehnlein wrote: >>> Horseshit, Steve. :-) >> then please enlighten us as to what the correct reason for why prices >> are that high. > > Because people will pay it. :) Elegant in its simplicity, but does not address _why_ people will pay it. There is a certain key respect in which de

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:31 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > > I will give Jay the benefit of the doubt, but he is usually very quick > > to reply these kinds of messages. Maybe he is on vacation or > > otherwise not interested or chec

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 10:34 -0400, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:15:49AM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > > Basically it means if you remove something for reasons other than > > porting or add anything for any reason you cant use their trademarked > > words (among othe

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:15:49AM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > Basically it means if you remove something for reasons other than > porting or add anything for any reason you cant use their trademarked > words (among others: DIGIUM, ASTERISK, AsteriskNOW, IAX, and DUNDi) > anywhere in t

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 05:17:09AM +0200, Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:13 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > > So to sum up Alex's very long winded explanation. It is the "status > > quo" that Jay called BS. I guess some people are not ready for the > > paradigm shift or t

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > I will give Jay the benefit of the doubt, but he is usually very quick > to reply these kinds of messages. Maybe he is on vacation or > otherwise not interested or checking his email right now. > > Or possibly he does not care to eat

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:13 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: >> So to sum up Alex's very long winded explanation. It is the "status >> quo" that Jay called BS. I guess some people are not ready for the >> paradigm sh

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:13 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > So to sum up Alex's very long winded explanation. It is the "status > quo" that Jay called BS. I guess some people are not ready for the > paradigm shift or they were and now want to shift if back. I concur that it is the status quo, at le

Re: [asterisk-biz] PBX Functionality for Less than the Price of a KeySystem (3Com Asterisk IP Telephony Appliance)

2008-06-04 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > Then without running ABE, I can upsell all kinds of integration (even > things the customer never thought of) and be a true VAR, not just a > guy that sells a box. Just be careful about calling it asterisk if you add or remove anything. See