Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussionand survey

2008-10-31 Thread Craig Lawrence
You've asked a reasonable question. I am assuming here that part of the assumption behind the Open Source model is that the maintainer of the code base can also maintain profitability and survive at the same time as providing a community with the source code. It's not just about getting the job

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Joseph Benden
Hello all, I am the author and maintainer of TDMoE-Multiframe. [please do not read the following as an attack, but rather simple comments.] The code did not have any major coding or quality issues, but rather had licensing issues because I had an old license on file and Digium switching to

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review. It

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Bill Michaelson wrote: > >> ztd-ethmf.c > > As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been > removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review. It was removed quickly thereafter, and

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. -- Kevin P. Fleming Director of Software Technologies Digium, Inc. - "The Genuine Asterisk Experience" (TM) ___ --Bandwidth and Coloc

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if I recall correctly. I believe the

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I > obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver > listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if > I recall correctly. I believe the author was named Bende

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: >And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that >can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that >the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the >required module was removed fr

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that > can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that > the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the > required module was removed from the zaptel code reposito

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > John Todd wrote: > > Any mechanism that could improve the > > Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how > > well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - > > great

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) wrote: John Todd wrote: Any mechanism that could improve the Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem to

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI)
John Todd wrote: > Any mechanism that could improve the > Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how > well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - > great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem to be > working as they are no

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread SIP
Jared Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > >> A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. >> The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. >> > > John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's > financi

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. > The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's financial benefit -- he's simply trying to see i

Re: [asterisk-biz] Pakistan Rates rising

2008-10-31 Thread Igor Hernandez
Hello Jay, We've been informed by 3 of our local contacts that this was the case. Have you had any news reach you yet? Regards, -- Igor Hernandez Escape Communications http://www.escapetel.com Jay Kordic wrote: > I have not heard anything like that and I sell Pakistan wholesale daily. > Curren

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread randulo
I'm hoping we'll be talking about this question today on the live conference in less than 30 minutes. http://voipusersconference.org for how to participate. Only about 250 seats left! /r ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread C. Savinovich
Craig, May I ask in what sense do you believe the open source project is not working for asterisk? My opinion is that it is, but I am open to hear yours, since it is the educated opinion of someone in the industry. And I gather, based on your response, that that's how you see it. Best

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion andsurvey

2008-10-31 Thread Dean Collins
John, Maybe a little more effort could be spent on getting the Asterisk 3rd party license server up and running and this would encourage more funded development. I heard via a Voiceroute video that you announced it at Astricon which was good news as you stopped returning my calls/emails since the

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
I generally pay for custom development. I would chip in a bit if there were a PayPal Donation link on the Asterisk.org site. John Todd "Summary: > Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk enhancements, > bugfixes, or documentation if there was a way to collectively > contribute money

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread John Todd
Craig - No, that is not my inference at all, and I apologize if that is the impression you or others received in reading my message. The Asterisk Open Source project is as active as it has ever been, and is anything but a failure at this point. My question is: could the project be 20%

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Paul Brown
I don't want to sound snarky, but could you offer a pointer or two to get somebody started who wanted to find the problems (and perhaps some suggested solutions) with the way Digium is doing Open Source? I am genuinely interested. Currently, I'm inclined to agree that some sort of escrow-ed bount

[asterisk-biz] Blackberry Softphone

2008-10-31 Thread Guillermo Sanchez - Go Net
Does anybody know about a comercial/free software to run sip based phone on Blackberry with wi-fi and also be compatible with Asterisk. Thank in advance. Guillermo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz

[asterisk-biz] Friday Halloween Edition Oct 31 12 Noon EDT

2008-10-31 Thread randulo
Morning! This may be the "day of the dead" in some regions, but we expect the usual lively discussion today at 9AM PDT, 11 Central, 12 Noon EDT, 4PM UK and Portugal, 5PM Paris, $deity-forsaken hour down under. This Sunday, I believe the USA falls back to Standard time. Future VUC are still at 12 N