Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-20 Thread Mojo Jojo
sion" Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. On Fri, 20 May 2005, Brian West waxed: e911 on voip is kinda like herding minnows.. The best part for all the giant telcos just starting to deploy VoIP is that not only did they g

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-20 Thread C. Maj
On Fri, 20 May 2005, Brian West waxed: > e911 on voip is kinda like herding minnows.. The best part for all the giant telcos just starting to deploy VoIP is that not only did they get the FCC to help eliminate the small upstart competition, they did it under the guise of protecting the public. F

RE: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-20 Thread Nathan C. Smith
v. more traditional phone services without taking into account all the underlying facilities and services required to provide VOIP.   -Nate   -Original Message-From: admin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:45 AMTo: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-bi

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-20 Thread Brian West
e911 on voip is kinda like herding minnows.. /b On May 19, 2005, at 5:55 PM, William Waites wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:55:25PM -0400, steve szmidt wrote: The only way around that seem to be to not allow random access at all. I'm not sure how you detect his location unless he has fixed IP a

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread William Waites
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 04:55:25PM -0400, steve szmidt wrote: > > The only way around that seem to be to not allow random access at all. I'm > not > sure how you detect his location unless he has fixed IP at home. Unless you > leave it up to him to use a website to update his location. (Then th

RE: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Michael Giagnocavo
11:01 AM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. What exactly is the deffinition of a Interconnected VoIP Provider? - Original Message - From: "admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 1

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread steve szmidt
On Thursday 19 May 2005 12:44, admin wrote: > The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. Check out the press release at > http://www.fcc.gov/. It's not too bad except how you deliver 911 to someone who takes his phone home/or anywhere else, where he has access to the Internet? The only way around that

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread William Waites
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 02:28:39PM -0400, Jeremy McNamara wrote: > > I believe this to be wording came from the Pulver ruling. An > Interconnected VoIP Provider, in my minds means a provider that > has/provides connectivity to the PSTN. Great can of worms that is. I think that this will sign

RE: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Alex Pui
and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. On Thu, 19 May 2005, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Robert Wolpov wrote: > > $Millions will be made by attorneys debating that question. > > I doubt that... the order announceme

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Chris Ochs
Robert Wolpov wrote: $Millions will be made by attorneys debating that question. I doubt that... the order announcement seems pretty clear, although we haven't seen the actual order yet. I agree. This is not the sort of situation that will be decided by the courts. The FCC will issue a clarif

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Brian West
How about if you provide something like skypeout (which does not allow inbound calling), there's a requirement for PSAP to be able to reach you back - but its not available...How about if you only provide inbound calls to say, call center - would you be required to provide e911? :) This is go

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Billy Huddleston wrote: What exactly is the deffinition of a Interconnected VoIP Provider? I believe this to be wording came from the Pulver ruling. An Interconnected VoIP Provider, in my minds means a provider that has/provides connectivity to the PSTN. Jeremy McNamara

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread alex
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Robert Wolpov wrote: > > $Millions will be made by attorneys debating that question. > > I doubt that... the order announcement seems pretty clear, although we > haven't seen the actual order yet. Announcement doesn't say. > I'd say that if you are

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Robert Wolpov wrote: $Millions will be made by attorneys debating that question. I doubt that... the order announcement seems pretty clear, although we haven't seen the actual order yet. I'd say that if you are providing VOIP services that are specifically intended to provide access to the PSTN,

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread alex
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Billy Huddleston wrote: > What exactly is the deffinition of a Interconnected VoIP Provider? Since it hasn't been explicitly defined, I'm sure it'll be a subject of 5 supreme court cases. -alex ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asteris

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Robert Wolpov
$Millions will be made by attorneys debating that question. - Original Message - From: "Billy Huddleston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC V

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Billy Huddleston
What exactly is the deffinition of a Interconnected VoIP Provider? - Original Message - From: "admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. > The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

Re: [Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread Chris Ochs
The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. Check out the press release at http://www.fcc.gov/. This seems entirely reasonable. I think the FCC took the middle ground and did this correctly given all the choices. Even in the short time span of 120 days I suspect there will be quite a few E911 soluti

[Asterisk-biz] The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official.

2005-05-19 Thread admin
The FCC VoIP 911 oreder is official. Check out the press release at http://www.fcc.gov/. ___ Asterisk-Biz mailing list Asterisk-Biz@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz