Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-26 Thread John Scully
agents contacted us for private label service. I talked to one guy who had almost $10K in commissions about to pay out. John Scully www.isupportisp.com - Original Message - From: "Al Bochter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion&qu

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-26 Thread Matt
I'm sorry, I don't buy the 'not sustainable' arguement. We make money on every customer, and on every call. Our plans are: $9.95 - Unlimited local calling and 3 cents/minute long distance $14.95 - Unlimited local calling and 500 minutes of LD, then 3 cents/minute. $24.95 - Unlimited local callin

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-26 Thread Alex Balashov
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Alex Pilosov wrote: > Its not a sustainable model. It may be sustainable if serious enhanced services that actually represent some sort of coherent added value are overlayed. But I agree, that's not easy, nor is anyone who claims to do it actually do it very well, wi

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Al Bochter
wrote: >Well stated John. >I think this discussion can end now. I am exhaused just reading it. > >Nicky Smith >www.carolinanet.com >a profitable ISP/Data Center > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scully >Sent: Wednesday,

[asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Nicky Smith
-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket Well guys, I hate to tell you this, but we are running several hundred profitable VoIP companies. profitable for us, profitable for our clients, and the only reason they are able to sell service is that the

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
On Behalf Of John Scully > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:09 PM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket > > Well guys, I hate to tell you this, but we are running several hundred > profitable Vo

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 20:52 -0400, Alex Pilosov wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > > > I pay less every month for my consumer VoIP service than I ever > > did, or would now, for my call traffic. And that's not even counting > > foreign calls, including ones to Europe and

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Dean Collins
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicky Smith Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2007 10:21 PM To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' Subject: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket Well stated John. I think this discussion can end now. I am exhaused just reading i

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread John Scully
ROTECTED]> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket > > Bah. VoIP is hardly dead unless you're stuck in the US. There, it's > been legislated

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
I pay less every month for my consumer VoIP service than I ever did, or would now, for my call traffic. And that's not even counting foreign calls, including ones to Europe and South Asia. Since it's flat rate, I talk much longer internationally, even leaving the line open for long business

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > I pay less every month for my consumer VoIP service than I ever > did, or would now, for my call traffic. And that's not even counting > foreign calls, including ones to Europe and South Asia. Since it's flat > rate, I talk much longer interna

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
corrections and additions: On 7/26/07, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > most of those companies also have higher costs to call from a I meant countries, not companies I also forgot to mention there are some cultural differences, ireland for example the average person on th

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Trixter aka Bret McDanel
On 7/26/07, SIP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bah. VoIP is hardly dead unless you're stuck in the US. There, it's > been legislated out of existence by telecoms that could no longer > compete. And where they've failed in legislation, they've succeeded in > dubious lawsuits. > > But then... that's w

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote: > There is no way I'd ever let you near my "Commercial and > Business-Oriented Asterisk" activity, which is the *only* legitimate > subject of this mailing list. Not only are you laughably wrong about > VoIP, you are a troll. There's no way you

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread SIP
559 1959 Office > 1 866 568 9648 Fax > 1 412 589 5389 Cell > > Http://www.BusinessCommunicationsNet.com > Http://www.jackearl.com > > > ---- Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket > From: Al Bochter

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
> Http://www.BusinessCommunicationsNet.com > Http://www.jackearl.com > > > -------- Original Message > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket > From: Al Bochter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Business Communications Net
states.Jack Earl1 800 559 1959 Office1 866 568 9648 Fax1 412 589 5389 CellHttp://www.BusinessCommunicationsNet.comHttp://www.jackearl.com Original Message Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket From: Al Bochter bochterservices.com> Date: Wed, July 25

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-25 Thread Al Bochter
The name "VOIP" has lost ground :( And it has hit the press. Best regards, Al Bochter http://www.BochterServices.com --- See what we are selling at auction http://www.epier.com/auctions.asp?bochterservices -

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-24 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
Yes, I meant Verizon's suits. Thanks for the correction. On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 23:12 -0400, Anthony Cennami wrote: > Do you mean Verizon's suits? Both of these shakeups and/or shutdowns > were the direct result of Verizon suits or contracts > > On 7/24/07, Matthew Rubenstein <[EMA

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-24 Thread Anthony Cennami
Do you mean Verizon's suits? Both of these shakeups and/or shutdowns were the direct result of Verizon suits or contracts On 7/24/07, Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It now looks like the "independent telcos" are in a shakeout. And judging from general news and the qu

Re: [asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-24 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
It now looks like the "independent telcos" are in a shakeout. And judging from general news and the quality of services offered on this list, the other indies aren't ready to handle the extra business. How much of these windups are the result of AT&T's successful suits against Vona

[asterisk-biz] Amp'd Going the Way of Sun Rocket

2007-07-24 Thread Steve Totaro
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/24/ap3948212.html Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/l