Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-11-09 Thread Steve Totaro
Apologies for bringing up an old thread but I had hoped it would have continued on it's own and I take issue with Xorcom's code getting included and causing issue after issue. Kevin said "I believe that redfone did submit their driver for inclusion into Zaptel, and that it was rejected for the rea

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Joseph Benden
Hello all, I am the author and maintainer of TDMoE-Multiframe. [please do not read the following as an attack, but rather simple comments.] The code did not have any major coding or quality issues, but rather had licensing issues because I had an old license on file and Digium switching to

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review. It

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Bill Michaelson wrote: > >> ztd-ethmf.c > > As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been > removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review. It was removed quickly thereafter, and

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. -- Kevin P. Fleming Director of Software Technologies Digium, Inc. - "The Genuine Asterisk Experience" (TM) ___ --Bandwidth and Coloc

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if I recall correctly. I believe the

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I > obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver > listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if > I recall correctly. I believe the author was named Bende

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: >And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that >can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that >the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the >required module was removed fr

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: > And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that > can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that > the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the > required module was removed from the zaptel code reposito

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > John Todd wrote: > > Any mechanism that could improve the > > Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how > > well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - > > great

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) wrote: John Todd wrote: Any mechanism that could improve the Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem to

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI)
John Todd wrote: > Any mechanism that could improve the > Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how > well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - > great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem to be > working as they are no

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread SIP
Jared Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > >> A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. >> The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. >> > > John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's > financi

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: > A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. > The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's financial benefit -- he's simply trying to see i

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread randulo
I'm hoping we'll be talking about this question today on the live conference in less than 30 minutes. http://voipusersconference.org for how to participate. Only about 250 seats left! /r ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread C. Savinovich
John Todd Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 6:12 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey [sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden particip

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
I generally pay for custom development. I would chip in a bit if there were a PayPal Donation link on the Asterisk.org site. John Todd "Summary: > Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk enhancements, > bugfixes, or documentation if there was a way to collectively > contribute money

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread John Todd
for funding. > > Regards > > > Craig Lawrence > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Todd > Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 6:12 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion;

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Paul Brown
I don't want to sound snarky, but could you offer a pointer or two to get somebody started who wanted to find the problems (and perhaps some suggested solutions) with the way Digium is doing Open Source? I am genuinely interested. Currently, I'm inclined to agree that some sort of escrow-ed bount

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-30 Thread Craig Lawrence
risk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey [sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden participation] Summary: Would you help fund different Open-Sourc

[asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-30 Thread John Todd
[sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden participation] Summary: Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk enhancements, bugfixes, or documentation if there was a way to collectively contribute money towards the effort without a profit margin incorp