Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-11-09 Thread Steve Totaro
Apologies for bringing up an old thread but I had hoped it would have continued on it's own and I take issue with Xorcom's code getting included and causing issue after issue. Kevin said I believe that redfone did submit their driver for inclusion into Zaptel, and that it was rejected for the

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Paul Brown
I don't want to sound snarky, but could you offer a pointer or two to get somebody started who wanted to find the problems (and perhaps some suggested solutions) with the way Digium is doing Open Source? I am genuinely interested. Currently, I'm inclined to agree that some sort of escrow-ed

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread John Todd
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Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
I generally pay for custom development. I would chip in a bit if there were a PayPal Donation link on the Asterisk.org site. John Todd Summary: Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk enhancements, bugfixes, or documentation if there was a way to collectively contribute money

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread C. Savinovich
: Friday, 31 October 2008 6:12 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey [sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden participation] Summary

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread randulo
I'm hoping we'll be talking about this question today on the live conference in less than 30 minutes. http://voipusersconference.org for how to participate. Only about 250 seats left! /r ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Jared Smith
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's financial benefit -- he's simply trying to see if

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread SIP
Jared Smith wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 10:20 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: A profit margin for Asterisk or Digium? Where is the line drawn here. The line was moved quite a bit with Adwords debacle. John isn't suggesting in any way that this would be for Digium's financial benefit

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI)
John Todd wrote: Any mechanism that could improve the Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem to be working as they are now.

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) wrote: John Todd wrote: Any mechanism that could improve the Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - great! Let's see if it's serious. If not, OK, then things seem

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Steve Totaro
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Todd wrote: Any mechanism that could improve the Asterisk Open Source project is interesting to me, regardless of how well we believe the current model works. If there's interest - great! Let's

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the required module was removed from the zaptel code repository

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: And when I recently tried to use a redfone foneBRIDGE, a product that can be regarded as competitive to Digium HW offerings, I discovered that the process of building the driver was very cumbersome because the required module was removed from

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if I recall correctly. I believe the author was named Benden.

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: Perhaps I am mistaken, or there is a semantic distinction. But I obtained the code required to support the foneBRIDGE from an old driver listing in a changelog, because the required module was not present, if I recall correctly. I believe the

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Bill Michaelson wrote: ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. -- Kevin P. Fleming Director of Software Technologies Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM) ___ --Bandwidth and

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review. It was removed quickly thereafter, and was

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Bill Michaelson
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Bill Michaelson wrote: ztd-ethmf.c As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have been removed. Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been committed without proper code review.

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-31 Thread Joseph Benden
Hello all, I am the author and maintainer of TDMoE-Multiframe. [please do not read the following as an attack, but rather simple comments.] The code did not have any major coding or quality issues, but rather had licensing issues because I had an old license on file and Digium switching

[asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-30 Thread John Todd
[sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden participation] Summary: Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk enhancements, bugfixes, or documentation if there was a way to collectively contribute money towards the effort without a profit margin

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

2008-10-30 Thread Craig Lawrence
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey [sending to -users and -biz in a slightly different format to broaden participation] Summary: Would you help fund different Open-Source Asterisk