Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On January 7, 2005 05:42 am, Brian Wilkins wrote: If the project is ongoing, why are the docs on the www.asterisk.org website outdated? The Asterisk Handbook: Second Draft was last published in March, 2003! That's the problem -- the handbook isn't what I was referring to.

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On January 7, 2005 10:51 am, Gregory Junker wrote: Thank you for pointing out exactly what is wrong (specifically, your attitude) with the majority of open-source projects. While I agree that Alex's attitude is poor that is actually part of the beauty of open source and why it makes people

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] Asterisk with MySQL

2005-01-07 Thread Muhammad Rizwan Khan
Sorry, this was wrongly sent on this list, please ignore it... On Friday 07 January 2005 20:48, you wrote: Hello I am getting this error message, when i try to authenticate my users through database. Jan 7 20:28:08 WARNING[26487]: res_config_odbc.c:69 realtime_odbc: SQL Alloc Handle

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread steve szmidt
On Friday 07 January 2005 11:18 am, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: There are plenty of people here who possess tact and diplomacy. You seem to expect those qualities to be a requirement; they're not. Yep. It's very easy to get caught up with wishing things to be different or better. The whole

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread steve szmidt
On Friday 07 January 2005 11:12 am, Rich Adamson wrote: So the purpose should be clearly deliniated, and then an eval of how it is not being accomplished, or is being threatend can be done. The concern I have is that people are aware of and even if they disagree or are too lazy,

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread alex
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On January 7, 2005 10:51 am, Gregory Junker wrote: Thank you for pointing out exactly what is wrong (specifically, your attitude) with the majority of open-source projects. While I agree that Alex's attitude is poor that is actually part of the

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Gregory Junker
There are plenty of people here who possess tact and diplomacy. You seem to expect those qualities to be a requirement; they're not. They are a requirement for any open-source project to reach its full potential. Nothing turns off a newbie to a project faster than a smartass or hostile

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Richard Lyman
Brian Wilkins wrote: I grew up thinking that no question is stupid or dumb. If someone has to respond to the message with, Read the wiki, here's the link then so be it. Everyone encourages users to search the lists archives dilligently, but sometimes after an hour of searching it proves futile

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Gregory Junker
Precisely. I'm very very very much nicer to people who pay me money. That is, consulting clients or hosting customers. If you want free advice, you might get it, just don't expect me to be nice. :) Then expect to lose a potential client due to inadequate people skills. You never know who is on

Re: [Asterisk-Dev] RFC: Moderating the Asterisk Mailing Lists

2005-01-07 Thread Brian Wilkins
My point exactly. The wiki is just too cumbersome, and I would never expect anyone trying to learn a piece of software to go look at the source code. (Ref Lief Madsen's Email) That is just silly. When was the last time anyone looked at the source to install Windows XP or any piece of software?