Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Michael Kane
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:37

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Flagg
- Original Message - From: "Michael Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > That why I have looked into(implemented) such technologies > like STUN an

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Michael C. Cambria
Andrew Radke wrote: > > Ok I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this since I started the > whole thing and am the main developer of SaRP. > > NAT and SIP _can_ work okay under very very restricted circumstance. > Multiple SIP UAs behind one NATed IP _can_ work okay with a very > intelligent ro

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Radke
Instead of this make notes of some of the faults in SIP that cause you problems and start working towards SIP/2.1 or SIP/3.0. Just because you weren't one of the people involved in designing the existing protocol doesn't mean you can't work to change it. SIP 2.0 has some unbeleivably braindead

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Michael Kane
]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:46 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > Ok I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this since I started the > whole thing and am the main developer of SaRP. > > NAT and SIP _can_ work okay u

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Radke
Klaus Darilion wrote: [snip] The project can be found at http://sarp.sourceforge.net/ There is also a similar project called siproxd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/siproxd/ regards, klaus It has a broadly similar goal on the surface but a very very different approach. siproxd relies on a large

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Radke
Ok I guess it's time for me to weigh in on this since I started the whole thing and am the main developer of SaRP. NAT and SIP _can_ work okay under very very restricted circumstance. Multiple SIP UAs behind one NATed IP _can_ work okay with a very intelligent router/firewall. BUT, not everyone

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Andrew Radke
Patrick wrote: [snip] Hi John, [snip] How about Asterisk and NAT? Can you please comment if the examples below also work. 1x SIP phone <-> NAT box <-> Internet <-> NAT box <-> Asterisk 10x SIP phone <-> NAT box <-> Internet <-> NAT box <-> Asterisk This all depends on the NAT boxes that you use. Th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Klaus Darilion
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:37:20 +1000 > From: Andrew Radke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT ... > So I've started a really simple SIP and RTP proxy project, SaRP, on > sourceforge.net. Yesterday we u

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread Patrick
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 04:26, John Todd wrote: > You may be correct about the Via: header, but you're incorrect in the > concept as to how it relates to Asterisk, notably in your reversal of > what side of the transaction is putting data in the Via: header to > make SIP work correctly. > > This

RE: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-02 Thread John Todd
That's a different part of the equation. If Asterisk could interpret the Via: headers like the Cisco phones do, that would solve the "Asterisk-behind-a-NAT" problem to a large degree. Perhaps it already does; I've never tried putting Asterisk behind a NAT, only SIP clients. JT Please don't

RE: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Richard Alexander
Please don't take the discussion of SIP interactions off list. I already have NATed SIP clients working with *, but * still has problems where its own external IP is not public and it is trying to use external SIP services. A full discussion on list could spawn an Asterisk SIP FAQ - and I think tha

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread John Todd
You may be correct about the Via: header, but you're incorrect in the concept as to how it relates to Asterisk, notably in your reversal of what side of the transaction is putting data in the Via: header to make SIP work correctly. This is cluttering up the list. Talk to me off line if you wan

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Kane
d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > > No, it works fine. SIP UA behind the NAT. Asterisk outside the NAT. > "nat=1" set on the SIP peer. Works fine. R

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread John Todd
Yes, I have one location where there are a dozen or so behind the same NAT. Things work fine for inbound and outbound. I'm sure there is a theoretical limit based on what an 8 or 16 bit integer can hold, but I'm not worried about hitting that problem any time soon. JT John, When you say y

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread John Todd
ations LLC. 37 Sandusky Dr. Wareham, Ma. 02571 508-295-2826 - Original Message - From: "John Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT Sorry, I still don't know

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread justin
gt;To-Talk Communications LLC. > >37 Sandusky Dr. > >Wareham, Ma. 02571 > >508-295-2826 > >- Original Message ----- > >From: "John Todd" <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Kane
-2826 - Original Message - From: "John Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > Sorry, I still don't know what you're talking about. > > Clients behind NAT

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Kane
d > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > Michael Kane > > To-Talk Communications LLC. > > 37 Sandusky Dr. > > Wareham, Ma. 02571 > > 508-295-2826 > > - Original Message - > > From: "John Todd" <[EMA

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Kane
el Kane To-Talk Communications LLC. 37 Sandusky Dr. Wareham, Ma. 02571 508-295-2826 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Matteo Brancaleoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution fo

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread John Todd
EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > I'm uncertain why you're not able to get SIP working for your user agents (SIP clients.) With Cisco equipm

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Matteo Brancaleoni
8-295-2826 > - Original Message - > From: "John Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > > > > I'm uncertain why you'

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread Michael Kane
Dr.Wareham, Ma. 02571508-295-2826 - Original Message - From: "John Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT > I'm uncertain why you're not able to get

Re: [Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-07-01 Thread John Todd
I'm uncertain why you're not able to get SIP working for your user agents (SIP clients.) With Cisco equipment, as an example, it works quite well and almost every 79xx or ATA-186 I have is behind a NAT, and this configuration is duplicated across a dozen or more systems now running behind almo

[Asterisk-Users] A solution for SIP and NAT

2003-06-30 Thread Andrew Radke
Hi all. I have come to the conclusion that there just isn't anything out there for allowing SIP and NAT to work together nicely. This is rather amazing considering that as far back as March 2000 there are documents describing how to do it. So I've started a really simple SIP and RTP proxy project