Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-20 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
Thanks a lot Daryl!! Yours, Francis On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:25:21 +0930, Darryl Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Francis, so no need to make a special dialplan to acomodate the weird numbering system we have in Brazil (sometimes we dial 7 numbers, sometimes 8, sometimes 12, sometimes 13,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-18 Thread Peter Svensson
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Darryl Ross wrote: Oh, so I how does Asterisk knows when to start dialing out the numbers, if there are no rules? Have a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Extension+Matching It doesn't actually tell the whole picture. There are two ways to handle

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-18 Thread Peter Svensson
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: Actually, we also have non-fixed phone numbers in Germany. I think this is not weird, I think this is very good. And again, Asterisk supports this. Oh, so I how does Asterisk knows when to start dialing out the numbers, if there are no

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-18 Thread Holger Schurig
The other way is to hand off the call to the pstn as soon as you know that is where it is headed and just pass the digits to the pstn after that. This is called overlap dialing and is how most users are used to the pstn working. This works for at least the zap channels. It works also for

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-18 Thread Holger Schurig
By call retrieval, I mean this: when the phone rings on an extension (incoming call), but I'm far from it, then, dialing a certain prefix would make me pick up that call from the extension that's nearby me. That should work via dialplan. In bri-stuff-0.1.0-RC4 is app_pickup, a channel

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-17 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
Hallo Holger, and thanks for your explanations! Here's my reply: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:51:54 +0200, Holger Schurig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm not really looking for a lot of phone features, just the basics (transfers, call retrieval, etc.). Not sure what you mean with call

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-17 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:44:53 +0200, Holger Schurig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My concern was if I'd have to teach folks how to dial, but I guess that I can still have the option to assign a number that will give immediate access to the PSTN, In Germany, you usually use a 0 in hardware PXSes

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-17 Thread Darryl Ross
Hi Francis, so no need to make a special dialplan to acomodate the weird numbering system we have in Brazil (sometimes we dial 7 numbers, sometimes 8, sometimes 12, sometimes 13, etc.) Actually, we also have non-fixed phone numbers in Germany. I think this is not weird, I think this is very good.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-16 Thread Holger Schurig
My concern was if I'd have to teach folks how to dial, but I guess that I can still have the option to assign a number that will give immediate access to the PSTN, In Germany, you usually use a 0 in hardware PXSes to get the PSTN dial tone. No problem with Asterisk to do the same. so no

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-16 Thread Holger Schurig
Well, I'm not really looking for a lot of phone features, just the basics (transfers, call retrieval, etc.). Not sure what you mean with call retrieval. But the GS phone can only do blind transfer. Also, Asterisk currently can only do blind-transfer by software. If you want attended transfer

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Tobias Jönsson
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, Peter Svensson wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'll most likely use a BRI. Do you think this will help to avoid echo? Using a BRI will eliminate echos from the pstn connection. Not necessarily! When you call an analog phone via isdn, the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:15:20 +0200 (CES), Tobias Jönsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, Peter Svensson wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'll most likely use a BRI. Do you think this will help to avoid echo? Using a BRI will eliminate echos from

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: Is this small delay annoying enough? Can it be perceived by the part at the pstn side? Does it disturb fax signals, for example? The echo described by Tobias (originating at the pstn connected user) should only affect the isdn connected

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Nicolas Gudino
Hi Francis, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: Hi there everyone! I work at an office where we plant to have about 12-15 phone extensions. Costs of PBX are cheaper, but they are not expandable and, as the office is brand new, I want to use all modern stuff. My question is: if I buy 12-15 Grandstream

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:03:49 -0300, Nicolas Gudino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Francis, If you already have the analog telephone wiring in place, and you are on a budget, I recomend you to use sipura spa-2000 adapters. They are a whole lot better than GS phones. You can have 3way conferences

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 15 August 2004 12:03, Nicolas Gudino wrote: If you already have the analog telephone wiring in place, and you are on a budget, I recomend you to use sipura spa-2000 adapters. They are a whole lot better than GS phones. You can have 3way conferences and attendant transfers. With GS

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:39:10 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why on earth would you install SPA-2000s and endure that wiring mess? An FXS channel bank and a BIX strip will save you YEARS in lost time due to wiring and general messiness! Hello Andrew! I'm sorry to ask this

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 15 August 2004 13:50, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'm sorry to ask this really, reeally newbie thing, but... what would be an FXS channel bank, and where would I find more info about some popular models? And the same question goes to... BIX strips! What are those?? :)

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:58:58 -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 15 August 2004 13:50, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'm sorry to ask this really, reeally newbie thing, but... what would be an FXS channel bank, and where would I find more info about some

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-15 Thread Nicolas Gudino
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 15 August 2004 12:03, Nicolas Gudino wrote: If you already have the analog telephone wiring in place, and you are on a budget, I recomend you to use sipura spa-2000 adapters. They are a whole lot better than GS phones. You can have 3way conferences and attendant

[Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
Hi there everyone! I work at an office where we plant to have about 12-15 phone extensions. Costs of PBX are cheaper, but they are not expandable and, as the office is brand new, I want to use all modern stuff. My question is: if I buy 12-15 Grandstream Budgetone 101 phones, and install and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Greg Broiles
Asterisk should work fine for this application - but you and/or your users may be expecting the Grandstreams to look/act like traditional key system phones, where you've got a bunch of buttons labeled Computer Room or Joe and Bob, or whatever, where you can press that button to call that

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Wiley E. Siler
, Wiley -Original Message- From: Francis Augusto Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls? Hi there everyone! I work at an office where we plant to have about 12-15

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
Dear Greg, Thanks a lot for your e-mail! Here are my comments: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:37:08 -0700, Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asterisk should work fine for this application - but you and/or your users may be expecting the Grandstreams to look/act like traditional key system phones,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
Hi there Wiley! On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 14:43:05 -0700, Wiley E. Siler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My office build is the same as yours. 15 or so extensions, low traffic 100MB network, and a desire to have a phone system that uses VoIP. I have my system working as a PBX just like you would. I use

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: My concern was if I'd have to teach folks how to dial, but I guess that I can still have the option to assign a number that will give immediate access to the PSTN, so no need to make a special dialplan to acomodate the weird numbering

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Wiley E. Siler
Hello Francis, I'll most likely use a BRI. Do you think this will help to avoid echo? I could not say as I have never used a BRI and I am pretty new to this too. I do know that BRI is supported from watching conversations in this email list and reading online. People seem to use it a bit so

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'll most likely use a BRI. Do you think this will help to avoid echo? Using a BRI will eliminate echos from the pstn connection. Your ip phones should prevent echos from the local phone connections as well. That way you should not cause any

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Wiley E. Siler wrote: Greg had a great idea in having you set it up and try it. In fact, that is exactly how I did mine. I purchase a cheap clone card for $15 and used it to test on one POTS line while I tweaked my configuration files and got the system validated. I

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:22:42 +0200 (CEST), Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: My concern was if I'd have to teach folks how to dial, but I guess that I can still have the option to assign a number that will give immediate access to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Francis Augusto Medeiros
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 00:29:21 +0200 (CEST), Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Francis Augusto Medeiros wrote: I'll most likely use a BRI. Do you think this will help to avoid echo? Using a BRI will eliminate echos from the pstn connection. Your ip phones should

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 14 August 2004 18:29, Peter Svensson wrote: Using a BRI will eliminate echos from the pstn connection. Your ip phones should prevent echos from the local phone connections as well. That way you should not cause any noticable echo for the remote party. Being all digital has its

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 14 August 2004 18:29, Peter Svensson wrote: Using a BRI will eliminate echos from the pstn connection. Your ip phones should prevent echos from the local phone connections as well. That way you should not cause any noticable echo for

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Jay Milk
: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls? Also, my HP switch has COS (class of service which is like QOS) so I can prioritize the packets coming from my phones over the standard network traffic. Even without this switching feature turned on, performance was great

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Help - is voip good for in-house calls?

2004-08-14 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004, Jay Milk wrote: QOS comes into play only when you have to route the voice-traffic over a WAN connection and it has to compete with data going over the same link. If you have a T1 coming into the office and place a VOIP call, then someone downloading a huge file needs to