Hello.
I am going to be putting together my first * system using FXO/FXS
interfaces. All the systems I have set up thus far have been pure VoIP
setups.
The system I need to set up should have 3 FXO interfaces and 1 FXS
interface, as well as several SIP phones. I have noticed people
complaining ab
> I am going to be putting together my first * system using FXO/FXS
> interfaces. All the systems I have set up thus far have been pure VoIP
> setups.
>
> The system I need to set up should have 3 FXO interfaces and 1 FXS
> interface, as well as several SIP phones. I have noticed people
> complain
risk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
> I am going to be putting together my first * system using FXO/FXS
> interfaces. All the systems I have set up thus far have been pure VoIP
> setups.
>
> The system I need to
> Current experience... three spa-3000's are far more stable
> then a TDM card, and you'll get three fxo's plus three fxs's
> for less money.
I have experienced nothing but grief when trying to set up the PSTN part
of the SPA-3000. Everything from crackly audio to fast busies.
Has anybody tried t
wo cards on the motherboard
between the exact same slots, both now both work just fine.
Lyle
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What exactly are people seeing when they have &q
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What exactly are people seeing when they have "issues" with their TDM
card?
I have four of them in service, in everyday use--one R&D, one home, and
two small office. None has given us the least problem, ever.
One caveat that might be germane, given the complaints of o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What exactly are people seeing when they have "issues" with their TDM
card?
Brian Greul
Texas Shirt Company
www.txshirts.com
713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax)
Since you asked, and since I'm well into this bottle of Merlot on New
Year's day:
1. Power alarms. WTF does t
On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 16:14 -0700, Michael Welter wrote:
> Since you asked, and since I'm well into this bottle of Merlot on New
> Year's day:
>
> 1. Power alarms. WTF does that mean? Wish I had some support docs.
>
> 2. On bootup, "Excessive leakage module x, ProSLIC failed Auto
> Configu
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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>
> > I am going to be putting together my first * system using FXO/FXS
> > interfaces. All the systems I have set up thus far have been pure VoIP
>
> > setups.
> >
> > The system I need
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 16:14 -0700, Michael Welter wrote:
>
>> Since you asked, and since I'm well into this bottle of Merlot on
>> New Year's day:
>>
>> 1. Power alarms. WTF does that mean? Wish I had some support docs.
>>
>> 2. On bootup, "Excessive leakage modul
Rich Adamson wrote:
Current experience... three spa-3000's are far more stable then a TDM
card, and you'll get three fxo's plus three fxs's for less money.
Except for the little problem I've fought for about a week without any
Joy - no combination of efforts from numerous sources (wiki, this fo
Steven Critchfield wrote:
Those first 3 all sound like you have a problem with power supply and
consistency. You don't mention what modules you have in the cards, but I
bet you have FXS ports and have too light of a power supply for the
job.
I'm not at the client sites, but my test system BIOS
> Except for the little problem I've fought for about a week
> without any Joy - no combination of efforts from numerous
> sources (wiki, this forum members, my efforts) has succeeded
> in a spa-3000/asterisk combination that actually works. If
> you have specific spa-3000 and asterisk configs that
Nabeel Jafferali wrote:
Except for the little problem I've fought for about a week
without any Joy - no combination of efforts from numerous
sources (wiki, this forum members, my efforts) has succeeded
in a spa-3000/asterisk combination that actually works. If
you have specific spa-3000 and asteris
> Dec 31 12:03:55 NOTICE[7145]: chan_sip.c:7486 handle_request:
> Failed to
> authenticate user WIRELESS CALLER
> ;tag=83eaec7dcb80f5feo1
Have you tried the "A prefix" trick, which uses Line 1 Call Forwarding
as opposed to PSTN Line Call Forwarding (with the added advantage that
the SPA-3000 does
> I have experienced nothing but grief when trying to set up
> the PSTN part of the SPA-3000. Everything from crackly audio to fast
> busies.
BTW I take that back. I spent an hour on this after posting my last
email, and with a little tweaking, everything seems to be working well
now.
--
Nabeel
Nabeel Jafferali wrote:
Dec 31 12:03:55 NOTICE[7145]: chan_sip.c:7486 handle_request:
Failed to
authenticate user WIRELESS CALLER
;tag=83eaec7dcb80f5feo1
Have you tried the "A prefix" trick, which uses Line 1 Call Forwarding
as opposed to PSTN Line Call Forwarding (with the added advantage tha
t - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>
> Current experience... three spa-3000's are far more stable
> then a TDM card, and you'll get three fxo's plus three fxs's
> for less money.
>
>
> __
Michael Welter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 5:15 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What exactly are people seeing when they have "issues" with
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:52:50 -0500, Nabeel Jafferali wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I am going to be putting together my first * system using FXO/FXS
>interfaces. All the systems I have set up thus far have been pure VoIP
>setups.
>
>The system I need to set up should have 3 FXO interfaces and 1 FXS
>interface,
On Sat, 2005-01-01 at 17:25 -0700, Michael Welter wrote:
> Steven Critchfield wrote:
> >
> >
> > Those first 3 all sound like you have a problem with power supply and
> > consistency. You don't mention what modules you have in the cards, but I
> > bet you have FXS ports and have too light of a po
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 07:23:58PM -0500, Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
>[...]
> What if, for example, the TDM400 issues were a cumulative thing? If you
> had over 6dB of attenuation on the PSTN loop, coupled with greater than
> 5V potential on the neutral-ground of your elecrical receptacle,
> compound
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
[...]
> I
> [...]
> > I'm running older, but solid hardware and not seeing any
> > issues. I'm using a Compaq Proliant 1850R Gen1 dual PII 400
> > with 512MB ram, GB ethernet, and SATA Hardware RAID. Cheap,
> > efficient, redundant. And for a Debian box, good enough.
> [...]
>
> I just have to add m
This has been an interesting discussion. I'll chime in with my
experience here.
I have two servers. One with the cheapest motherboard and athlon
processor I could find on Newegg.com. The other is a 1999 era
motherboard with a Via C3 processor, again a bargain basement special.
The Athlon system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This has been an interesting discussion. I'll chime in with my
> experience here.
>
> I have two servers. One with the cheapest motherboard and athlon
> processor I could find on Newegg.com. The other is a 1999 era
> motherboard with a Via C3 processor, again a bargain
Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 07:23:58PM -0500, Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
>> [...]
>> What if, for example, the TDM400 issues were a cumulative thing? If
>> you had over 6dB of attenuation on the PSTN loop, coupled with
>> greater than 5V potential on the neutral-ground of your elecric
One thing to look at is the proximedy to the powersupply of your audio
devices. Some mobos have their chipset integrated in very closely to
their power supply pins. With an unclean power source the fluxuations
would be enough to add some of the white noise which would give you the
whine. Exc
Victor Rini wrote:
This has been an interesting discussion. I'll chime in with my
experience here.
I have two servers. One with the cheapest motherboard and athlon
processor I could find on Newegg.com. The other is a 1999 era
motherboard with a Via C3 processor, again a bargain basement specia
> Victor Rini wrote:
> > This has been an interesting discussion. I'll chime in with my
> > experience here.
> >
> > I have two servers. One with the cheapest motherboard and athlon
> > processor I could find on Newegg.com. The other is a 1999 era
> > motherboard with a Via C3 processor, again
Rich Adamson wrote:
Have you noticed that a TDM with fxo modules is more/less stable then
a TDM with only fxs modules?
Gut feeling (no reasonable analysis at all) from various postings tend
to suggest the TDM with fxo's is less stable. Would you agree or not?
Yes.
Also, could you share the driver
Thanks, I've applied the fix to two systems here. Guess I'll have to
wait for recurrence as well. But, hopefully I'll have to wait
forever. :)
Rich
> >
> > Have you noticed that a TDM with fxo modules is more/less stable then
> > a TDM with only fxs modules?
> >
> > Gu
Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
If I may, I'd like to ask you some general questions about the
environment these systems are running in.
- How are these systems powered and grounded?
Not optimally by a longshot. On the Athlon machine, my main machine, all
the equipment is plugged into 2to3 prong adapters.
Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
Frankly, what is most interesting is the fact that your systems are
trouble-free. Certainly if you were to ask if such systems could be put
into production, you would probably be advised not to expect much.
One last thing. I have a somewhat special PSTN connection. I subscri
On January 1, 2005 04:09 pm, Rich Adamson wrote:
> b. don't ever post anything to the -dev list regarding a TDM card as
>that is NOT the forum for digium cards or drivers,
Eh? If you're hacking on the code for wctdm, -dev is most certainly an
appropriate place to post. If you're just going
On January 1, 2005 06:24 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > 1. Power alarms. WTF does that mean? Wish I had some support docs.
> >
> > 2. On bootup, "Excessive leakage module x, ProSLIC failed Auto
> > Configuration". Again, WTF? Reboot and it's ok. But, just a reboot
> > after driving 100+ m
Truman Beal wrote:
> One thing to look at is the proximedy to the powersupply of
> your audio
> devices. Some mobos have their chipset integrated in very closely to
> their power supply pins. With an unclean power source the fluxuations
> would be enough to add some of the white noise which would
On Monday 03 January 2005 00:39, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
[...]
> Everyone keeps coming back to this "light power supply" and I just do not
> buy it. Period. I'm sorry, Steven, but it's bullshit. I'm speaking as an
> electronics design engineer and as someone who's been playing with this
> kind o
On January 3, 2005 05:35 am, Bob Goddard wrote:
> What matters is the volts, amps and the voltage drop when the rails
> are put under load. You have to ask yourself how many amps does the
> mb require on each rail and can the psu supply it? The total power
> supplied by the psu means nothing if it
On Monday 03 January 2005 12:34, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On January 3, 2005 05:35 am, Bob Goddard wrote:
> > What matters is the volts, amps and the voltage drop when the rails
> > are put under load. You have to ask yourself how many amps does the
> > mb require on each rail and can the psu supp
> I have been wondering if the spa 3000 would make a good PSTN interface
> for an * box where POTS is the only available (or practical) service.
> Have you implemented this? Are there any limitations or known issues?
> The SPA2000 sure seems to work well as an ATA, even had good luck with
> fax ove
On January 3, 2005 08:01 am, Bob Goddard wrote:
> > As I said, I measured the variation on the relevant lines with a 100MHz
> > DSO when running under load.
> No you didn't. What was the power load when the modules failed?
The actual current draw I did not measure -- I was looking for voltage sag
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 09:20 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On January 3, 2005 08:01 am, Bob Goddard wrote:
> > > As I said, I measured the variation on the relevant lines with a 100MHz
> > > DSO when running under load.
>
> > No you didn't. What was the power load when the modules failed?
>
> T
You guys probably don't know what Digium did recently to address TDM400
problem:
- they've sent new FXO modules to all customers who were complaining
about TDM/FXO issues.
What I've heard from a Didigum reseller/supplier it might be a situation
with specific telco lines here in US.
The new FXO
On January 3, 2005 12:29 pm, Andrei (MPI) wrote:
> You guys probably don't know what Digium did recently to address TDM400
> problem:
> - they've sent new FXO modules to all customers who were complaining
> about TDM/FXO issues.
> What I've heard from a Didigum reseller/supplier it might be a situa
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:27:56PM -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith said:
> My Panasonic 900MHz cordless phone plays silly bugger with the TDM400P card
> all the time. For whatever reason it either draws far too much power or just
> plain does not like the TDM430P. My Aastra 390 and a couple other "regu
Steven Critchfield wrote:
Okay, link this to my rambling above and you would see that by thrashing
the disk, you are actually keeping the spindle spooled up and not
measuring the spool up draw. My guess is a spooled down machine getting
a random incoming call that then must generate ring and spool
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 09:06 +1300, Richard Scobie wrote:
>
> Steven Critchfield wrote:
>
> > Okay, link this to my rambling above and you would see that by thrashing
> > the disk, you are actually keeping the spindle spooled up and not
> > measuring the spool up draw. My guess is a spooled down m
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On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 09:06 +1300, Richard Scobie wrote:
>
> Steven Critchfield wrote:
>
> > Okay, link this to my rambling above and you would see that by
> > thrashing the disk, you are actually keeping th
On January 3, 2005 03:07 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are
> more for hobbyist than for real serious installs. A real install is
> probably going to use a T1/E1 interface and bypasses all the troubles
> listed in this thread.
Unfo
Richard Scobie wrote:
It is a simple one liner.
...
Index: wctdm.c
...
+ reset_spi(wc,card);
...
This is exact same patch that Digium support tried before sending me new
fxo modules. That wctdm.c patch did not help in my case.
Andrei
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Asterisk-
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:25:29 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
>On January 3, 2005 03:07 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
>> And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are
>> more for hobbyist than for real serious installs. A real install is
>> probably going to use a T1/E1 interf
You may need more coffee before responding to another message.
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 14:21 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Steven,
> If we grant that you are correct and that Digium and friends are
> making hobbyist products. Then what are the "serious" installs
> using? We're serious to
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 15:25 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On January 3, 2005 03:07 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are
> > more for hobbyist than for real serious installs. A real install is
> > probably going to use a T1/E1 int
On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 15:06 -0600, Michael Graves wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:25:29 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
>
> >On January 3, 2005 03:07 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> >> And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are
> >> more for hobbyist than for real serious
Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:53 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>
> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 09:20 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > On January 3,
nal Message-
> From: Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:07 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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>
> On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 09:06 +1300, Richard Scobie
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From: Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:59 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
You may need more coffee before responding to an
hlsmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:25 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
On January 3, 2005 03:07 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> And we come full circle to a comment I made before that TDM cards are
> m
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> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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>
> My cost analysis showed that * is a slam dunk for the $ per feature.
>
> Heck add
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extensions on my system at home.
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Critchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
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>
> Yo
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>
> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 20:14 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Gosh, you sure are full of yourself.
>
> Looks like you didn't get enough caffeine into your bod
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On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 20:14 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gosh, you sure are full of yourself.
Looks like you didn't get enough caffeine into your body before
responding. Ohh well
--
Cheers,
M
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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>
> You guys probably don't know what Digium did recently to
> address TDM400
> problem:
> - they've sent new FXO modules to all customers who were
> complaining about TDM/FXO issues.
&
Andrei (MPI) wrote:
Richard Scobie wrote:
It is a simple one liner.
...
Index: wctdm.c
...
+ reset_spi(wc,card);
...
This is exact same patch that Digium support tried before sending me new
fxo modules. That wctdm.c patch did not help in my case.
Interesting, thanks Andrei. I have run for
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Steven Critchfield
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS
Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>>
>[...]
>> For business use, I would suggest you first find a BRI card
>> you can use here in the states. Hint, bug Kapejod into making
>> that 4 port card US ready. Then move an
At 03:25 PM 1/3/05 -0500, you wrote:
Unfortunately that makes Asterisk installs for small businesses more
expensive
than necessary. At US$500 for a T100P and US$300ish for a channel bank (FXS
only, FXO is significantly more expensive!) plus your time and system for an
Asterisk install it raises t
Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
When you try to sell the asterisk system, you have to compete with that and
frankly, all the people want is to make phone calls.
Mention voice over ip and eyebrows raise, "I've heard of that", but in reality
nobody cares how their phone calls are made, just that it
o: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
>>
>[...]
>> For business use, I would suggest you first find a BRI card
>> you can use here in the states. Hint, bug Kapejod into making
>> that 4 port card
Michael Graves wrote:
That might work out where you do your deployments. In Verizon
territory, you can get analog business lines with unlimited long
distance and no metered minutes for about $37 a month. A BRI costs you
about double that for the loop, with metered minutes and bring your own
LD.
, your choice.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:57 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
> >
> [...]
> > For business use, I would suggest you first find a BRI card
> > you can use here in the states. Hint, bug Kapejod into making
> > that 4 port card US ready. The
PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Qs about FXO/FXS cards
At 11:34 AM 1/4/05, you wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:08:27 -0500, Daryl G. Jurbala wrote:
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >&g
Andrei (MPI) wrote:
Michael Graves wrote:
That might work out where you do your deployments. In Verizon
territory, you can get analog business lines with unlimited long
distance and no metered minutes for about $37 a month. A BRI costs you
about double that for the loop, with metered minutes and
At 12:29 PM 1/4/05, you wrote:
Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
When you try to sell the asterisk system, you have to compete with that and
frankly, all the people want is to make phone calls.
Mention voice over ip and eyebrows raise, "I've heard of that", but in
reality
nobody cares how their ph
At 12:50 PM 1/4/05, you wrote:
Sipura SPA 3000... forget the channel bank and PRI card. Buy a PRI card
and ebay the SPAs when you arte ready to move from POTS to PRI, or
better yet, forget both and find an ITSP that can offer QoS (private
line!!!) and interface with *
Talkswitch? Get on the VoIP bu
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