Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-31 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 31 July 2004 00:20, Steven Critchfield wrote: > Actually, it isn't VoIP data yet, VoIP is Voice over Internet Protocol. > The 1000hz interupt is still just digitizing the audio off the PSTN > link. When it comes time to read/write VoIP data, it is likely 20ms of > audio, plus headers an

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-30 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 18:55, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > On Friday 30 July 2004 19:51, Mike Benoit wrote: > > Tuning these [PCI latencies] should allow you to give your TDM cards > > long burst lengths, and make your IDE devices very premptable... > > I would have figured you want very short burst l

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-30 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 30 July 2004 19:51, Mike Benoit wrote: > Tuning these [PCI latencies] should allow you to give your TDM cards > long burst lengths, and make your IDE devices very premptable... I would have figured you want very short burst lengths to prevent any one device from hogging the PCI bus and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-30 Thread Mike Benoit
Someone mailed me off list and suggested the below: Tuning these [PCI latencies] should allow you to give your TDM cards long burst lengths, and make your IDE devices very premptable... A decent article which has info in PCI latency (and IRQ, etc) is at: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/l

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-30 Thread Florin Andrei
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 12:14, Mike Benoit wrote: > I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. > Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD > activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P > card. Wow, i'm seeing exactly the sa

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread Dana Nowell
In an article on IDE vs. SCSI I read that MTBF numbers for IDE were frequently caculated at 8 hours on 16 hours off per day (assumes desktop usage) but SCSI drives were calculated at 24hrs on per day. So even though the MTBF numbers look the same ... The main reason is, reportedly, better quality

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread Walt Reed
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith said: > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 16:33, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > Software raid is bad. IDE hardware raid isn't much better. Software raid > > is always going to eat your system alive since the CPU has to be busy > > with 2 or more wri

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
> "Steven" == Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steven> oddly enough, there isn't much if any difference these days at Steven> the physical level. It is just the interface and the set of Steven> specs on the interface. SCSI drives usually will give you Steven> warning of their pro

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 22 July 2004 05:46, Kevin Walsh wrote: Some datapoints of my own: Supermicro motherboard, single Xeon 2.6 (HT), software RAID1 on SCSI using Seagate ST39173LC drives: # hdparm -tT /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.36 seconds =355.56 MB/sec Timing buffe

RE: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread Kevin Walsh
Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > BTW, my raid card on my Dell 2450 had this output > nash5:/home/critch# hdparm -tT /dev/sda > > /dev/sda: > Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.52 seconds = 25.40 MB/sec > My

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-22 Thread Richard Scobie
Mike Benoit wrote: I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P card. I ran the zttest program, and discovered HD activity would drop th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Carlos Hernandez
I hope this one is within context for the thread. I have been pondering for a while on building a high availability asterisk cluster.. I know it'd be matter of having a master 'service' router, selecting form a poll of asterisk servers (at least two) and if any of them falls down, the other woul

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Scott Laird
On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Steven Critchfield wrote: BTW, my raid card on my Dell 2450 had this output nash5:/home/critch# hdparm -tT /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 2.52 seconds = 25.40 MB/sec and I d

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 12:56 +1200, wrote: > > I would be interested in seeing if other people can reproduce low > > zttest accuracy rates with their mainboards. zttest is in the zaptel/ > > directory, and you can run it while Asterisk happily chugs along > > handling calls. > > > > What I usually

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 17:36, Scott Laird wrote: > On Jul 21, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > > > Software raid is bad. IDE hardware raid isn't much better. Software > > raid > > is always going to eat your system alive since the CPU has to be busy > > with 2 or more writes as oppos

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread matt . riddell
> I would be interested in seeing if other people can reproduce low > zttest accuracy rates with their mainboards. zttest is in the zaptel/ > directory, and you can run it while Asterisk happily chugs along > handling calls. > > What I usually do is run zttest in one window, then in another window

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Joshua McClintock
No good reason, except that the box may be used for something else in the future.. On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 17:26, Scott Laird wrote: > On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:53 PM, Joshua McClintock wrote: > > Our production environment is using a 4 port 3ware 8500 series card > > with > > 2 drives (mirrored) on th

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Scott Laird
On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:25 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Scott Laird wrote: That hasn't been my experience at all. Frankly, I've never seen a cheap (<$3k) hardware RAID controller that can touch software RAID's performance on Linux, especially in "challenging" setups, like RAID-5. Sure, software R

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
I didn't want to turn this in to a software vs. hardware raid, or IDE vs. SCSI. I was more curious about the PCI bus/interrupt issues and the mainboard. I only have 1 line going in to this asterisk server, so CPU usage is not an issue whatsoever. Even during a raid rebuild. Asterisk's CPU usage do

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Scott Laird
On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:53 PM, Joshua McClintock wrote: Our production environment is using a 4 port 3ware 8500 series card with 2 drives (mirrored) on the pstn (2 t1 cards) machine and an 8 port 3ware 8500 series with 8 drives (raid5) on the pbx/vm machine. Flawless so far. Why so many drives for

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Joshua McClintock
Our production environment is using a 4 port 3ware 8500 series card with 2 drives (mirrored) on the pstn (2 t1 cards) machine and an 8 port 3ware 8500 series with 8 drives (raid5) on the pbx/vm machine. Flawless so far. On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 16:25, Kevin P. Fleming wrote: > Scott Laird wrote: >

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Scott Laird wrote: That hasn't been my experience at all. Frankly, I've never seen a cheap (<$3k) hardware RAID controller that can touch software RAID's performance on Linux, especially in "challenging" setups, like RAID-5. Sure, software RAID eats more CPU, but most PCs have CPU to spare the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Scott Laird
On Jul 21, 2004, at 1:33 PM, Steven Critchfield wrote: Software raid is bad. IDE hardware raid isn't much better. Software raid is always going to eat your system alive since the CPU has to be busy with 2 or more writes as opposed to it's normal 1. That hasn't been my experience at all. Frankly,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 16:33, Steven Critchfield wrote: > Software raid is bad. IDE hardware raid isn't much better. Software raid > is always going to eat your system alive since the CPU has to be busy > with 2 or more writes as opposed to it's normal 1. I've never had issues with IDE RAID1 --

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 14:14, Mike Benoit wrote: > I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. > Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD > activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P > card. > > I ran the zttest program,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Michael Welter
Mike Benoit wrote: I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P card. I ran the zttest program, and discovered HD activity would drop the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On Jul 21, 2004, at 12:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P card. I ran the zttest program, and di

[Asterisk-Users] RAID affecting X100P performance...

2004-07-21 Thread Mike Benoit
I have a P3-800 with two IDE drives in a software RAID1 configuration. Each drive is on a separate IDE channel. Now anytime there is HD activity, I hear "beeps" and "cutting out" on a call using the X100P card. I ran the zttest program, and discovered HD activity would drop the accuracy down to b