Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread isamar
Who doesn't have money to buy anything else but Grandstream, I recommend PA-1688. Cheaper and better and have IAX2 protocol embeded. Talk to my friend Jack in China.. http://www.yntx.com/ Who wants to keep defending Grandstream, please send me the address and I will ship all the broken bunch

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread isamar
What issues are you having with attended call transfer? In recent months I've gone through a fair number of GXP2000 firmware versions and I can't say any of them have had a problem with attended transfer. I saw this topic and I myself the recommend the same!! Stay away from Grandstream... unle

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Chris Bagnall
> Are you saying that we just wasted our money with our recent > purchase of Grandstream phones? The last thing I need is > problems with a phone. Someone please confirm…are these > phones unusable? It seems that different people are getting vastly different results. In my experience, the G

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Bjorn Asmul
vich Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream! I agree, GrandStream does seem to become the poor man's VoIP solution - making the bar for other VoIP phones very low to pass. I believ

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Nir Simionovich
I agree, GrandStream does seem to become the poor man's VoIP solution - making the bar for other VoIP phones very low to pass. I believe that GrandStream have a very good chance to basically being bought by a bigger company, like what happened to Sipura. What would happen then would be that peopl

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 21:52, Erick Baum wrote: > that, there is now a bad echo if one of the GXP users turns their volume up > too high, the other party can hear an echo. If the GXP user turns their I'm afraid you're going to find this with pretty much *every* phone. Normal POTS phones ju

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Steve Underwood
I think the unfairness stems from Grandstreams generally being people's first IP phone - it seems like a cheap entry point to try things out. They then falsely assume everything else has to be better, especially if it has a higher price tag. Wrong. The standard for VoIP phones is total crap. An

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Nir Simionovich
Hmmm... I feel that this is a little unfair towards GrandStream and other like vendors. Any vendor on the market has issues with their firmware, I can list many: Sipura/LinkSys SPA 841 (Latest firmware): 1. Phone doesn't re-register upon network loss 2. Phone firware becomes stalled, without

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Jacques Leisy
My only experience is with their Budgetone 102. You basically get you pay for. I have since purchased a pair of Aastra 480i. Much much better. I am going to put the Budgetone on ebay, no point dealing with all the hassle. The main issue for me was actually not sofware but rather the design of t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Vahan Yerkanian
Stay away from Grandstream and AddPac. These are some of the companies with undereducated software developers that have problems with understanding written english, mainly the SIP RFC documents. I learned this the hard way, wasting half a year with helping them fix problems which shouldn't be t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-28 Thread Avi Miller
Brian Capouch wrote: They don't perform as well as the expensive Ciscos and Polycoms, but many of us are using them in a variety of circumstances quite happily. I have 4 of them in a small office (GXP2000) running 1.0.12 and they're just fine for our purposes. As Brian said, YMMV. For our 60-p

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Brian Capouch
calvis wrote: Are you saying that we just wasted our money with our recent purchase of Grandstream phones? The last thing I need is problems with a phone. Someone please confirm…are these phones unusable? They're not unusable. Grandstreams are a budget-line phone, as is obvious from the

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread calvis
Baum Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:53 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!   We have 50 Grandstream's that we purchased about 3 months ago.  They're all at one site and we've had nothing but t

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Steve Underwood
Erick Baum wrote: We have 50 Grandstream's that we purchased about 3 months ago. They're all at one site and we've had nothing but trouble with all the phones. The echo is the worst problem of all. We had to upgrade from the default 1.0.1.9 firmware to the 1.0.1.12

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Elene Kinsky
Yes, our mistake that we make order directly from GS. Should make via some reseller instead. About rate: 2/11 phones dead. Regarding the phone quality, it looks a bit cheap (I know it's really cheap), some buttons are worn out after few months of intensive use. Now maybe we'll consider to buy

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Erick Baum
We have 50 Grandstream's that we purchased about 3 months ago.  They're all at one site and we've had nothing but trouble with all the phones.  The echo is the worst problem of all.  We had to upgrade from the default 1.0.1.9 firmware to the 1.0.1.12 "beta" to get the speakerphone to work properly

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread The VoIP Connection
rtner www.thevoipconnection.com 321.989.6728 ext. 611 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:01 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-U

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Chris Bagnall
> We've contact Grandstream support, but they cannot help. Now > we want to send devices to Grandstream for repair but they on > longer reply mail! This is where a good reseller is worth their weight in gold. Unless you're buying massive quantities of the things (in which case a failure of 2 is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Rob Hillis
Steve Underwood wrote: We have 2 GXP-2000 dead during automatic firmware upgrade. Devices now send out only one ARP packet for default gateway resolution during boot and nothing more! We've contact Grandstream support, but they cannot help. Now we want to send devices to Grandstream for

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-27 Thread Steve Underwood
Elene Kinsky wrote: We have 2 GXP-2000 dead during automatic firmware upgrade. Devices now send out only one ARP packet for default gateway resolution during boot and nothing more! We've contact Grandstream support, but they cannot help. Now we want to send devices to Grandstream for repair bu

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-26 Thread Chris Albertson
Maybe a better way to say it is "Know the limitations of the GS phones and don't try and use them outside of those limits." Don't buy ANY phone you've not tested and used yourself for use by a client. My GS phone has worked fine for years. Even if it were to fail and had to be replaced buying two

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-26 Thread Cory Andrews
Elene - We are a Grandstream distributor, if you'd care to send me your company details and contact info I will assist you in obtaining recourse from the manufacturer. Regards, Cory Andrews Senior Partner +++ VOIPSupply.com 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 +++ voice - 716.630

[Asterisk-Users] Stay away from Grandstream!

2005-12-26 Thread Elene Kinsky
We have 2 GXP-2000 dead during automatic firmware upgrade. Devices now send out only one ARP packet for default gateway resolution during boot and nothing more! We've contact Grandstream support, but they cannot help. Now we want to send devices to Grandstream for repair but they on longer reply