Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread C F
I really don't like speaking about it, since it's a topic that will never go away on it's own if we don't speak about it, nor will it go away if we do speak about it. Remember yesterdays wannabees are todays newbies, and todays newbies are tomorrows experts, and so on. The newbies that see this thr

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 10:48 am, asterisk phones wrote: > It's nice to see that some people think so highly of > themselves and are above all others. It's quite > amusing to watch people like you give thinking so > highly of yourself and so little of others. In the > spirit of Asterisk and Mark's organ

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread asterisk phones
It's nice to see that some people think so highly of themselves and are above all others. It's quite amusing to watch people like you give thinking so highly of yourself and so little of others. In the spirit of Asterisk and Mark's organization-Digium, I certainly could understand why you aren't

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-05 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On March 5, 2005 01:39 am, Jonathan Hobbs wrote: > Ignore them and they will go away. Only after polluting the list with incessant "How do I do X?" messages, and then only after subsequently polluting the list with "asterisk sucks" messages, and then all the bad karma of some clueless twitt who

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Jonathan Hobbs
To paraphrase: Ignore them and they will go away. - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'" Sent: March 4, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] W

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Shanon Swafford
Jeff Busch wrote and I modified: *** Asterisk is a Open Source community and supported by volunteers. Please do the following before asking one of these volunteers for help. 1. Before asking a question, do a Google search 2. After a general Goo

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, sometimes that works. But I've been on a lot of lists where newbies who thought they were being ignored started flaming people for not responding to them, writing posts badmouthing the project, hijacking other threads,

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sure. So say, "I tried a Googling for X, but I didn't have any luck. Then I looked at pages X and Y in the Wiki, but couldn't find anything that related to my problem." People are a lot more sympathetic if you demonstrate

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-04 Thread Richard Lyman
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: *snipped Sometimes it is not the "if" you make a search, often is for new comers "what" to aks for. If you do not know the specific term, than you need to ask somewhere, and I think the list is good for that. *snipped no, if you don't know a 'term' you search for a glossar

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Wiley Siler
Title: Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! Look.  Lets make it simple.   In most cases, if a guru is bored or not interested in a noob question they just ignore it.  Personally, I find myself answering some of these specifically because I am not

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Ronald Wiplinger
Steven Critchfield wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:59 -0700, Paul Fielding wrote: - Original Message - Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or they will fail). This is the way of the

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:09 -0800, Jeff Busch wrote: > As someone who is new to Asterisk and Linux (I guess I am a newbie), but > who has been doing a ton of research, Google searches, and is getting to > intimately know the wiki, I take offense to Steven Critchfield's > commentary about newbies.

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 17:59 -0700, Paul Fielding wrote: > - Original Message - > > Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb > > for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or > > they will fail). This is the way of the open source communi

RE: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Busch
y, March 03, 2005 4:32 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick! If you really want to do this the asterisk list is based off of mailman. You can learn all about mailman here: http://list.org/ But r

Re: [OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question,therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Fielding
- Original Message - Look, don't answer lame questions if you don't want to. Flaming a newb for being a newb is just mean. (they will eventually RTFM or STFW or they will fail). This is the way of the open source community. Here Here, I'm with you. I find it a constant source of amazement

[OT] - [Asterisk-Users] Why should I answer a Newbie question, therethick!

2005-03-03 Thread Shadow Roldan
If you really want to do this the asterisk list is based off of mailman. You can learn all about mailman here: http://list.org/ But really, what are the odds that newbs will know to go there first? Are you going to moderate it? Someone has to actually answer the questions you know, if a newb onl