Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread C. Maj
On 28 May 2003, Steven Critchfield waxed: 8<'s > While I'm on the postgres bandwagon for now, I wouldn't want it in the > middle of a phone system doing heavy call loads either. Postgres also > has some downsides too. As I understand it, postgres doesn't understand > prepared statements, or at le

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Mike D.
> > was that mysql 3.23.x or 4.0.x ? > michael I did most of my mysql work some time ago with 3.x. I have, however, installed mysql 4.0.12 since I'm working on a CASE tool which needs to support both mysql and postgresql. I'll be the first to admit that mysql has probably improved (a lot?) sin

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Steven Critchfield wrote: Don't use Mysql. if you ever have had to deal with it in a production environment that works it over, you will know that as it reaches it's limits, it starts a death spiral that is very difficult to recover from. For our software on a dual P3 866 with a gig of ram, the li

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Michael Labuschke
was that mysql 3.23.x or 4.0.x ? michael *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 28.05.2003 at 16:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> My example of heavy load where mysql could not even begin to handle the >> situation was a project with real time stock market data streamed in as >> bids and of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Mike D.
> My example of heavy load where mysql could not even begin to handle the > situation was a project with real time stock market data streamed in as > bids and offers and trades happened, statistics computed from that in real > time, database kept in sync live, and charts and graphs plotted in re

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Mike D.
> Don't use Mysql. if you ever have had to deal with it in a production > environment that works it over, you will know that as it reaches it's > limits, it starts a death spiral that is very difficult to recover from. > For our software on a dual P3 866 with a gig of ram, the limit was > around 1.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo
Just my 2 cent here... I noticed that mysql need to be fine tuned for the work it must do. We have a mysql server that's a backend for a ecommerce website, a backend for user tracking, backed for an ads engine, backend for snort, backend for other 6 sites running with phpnuke. 2 of these sites get

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:09, Jon Pounder wrote: > I'll save my typing fingers somewhat on this one - you are doing great > arguing about all the crappiness of mysql and actually backing it up with > real examples. It is nice to see that for a change in comparison to all the > mysql lovers that l

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Jon Pounder
I'll save my typing fingers somewhat on this one - you are doing great arguing about all the crappiness of mysql and actually backing it up with real examples. It is nice to see that for a change in comparison to all the mysql lovers that love it just "because" but have no basis to compare it to

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:45, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > >Also, NFS mounting of the voicemail for such a large install is probably > >not the best idea. Unless you really need it available to another > >machine, you _may_ want to rethink this idea. NFS can be a major speed > >hit on a machine, especiall

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:36, Ron Gage wrote: > On Wednesday 28 May 2003 02:30 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 11:02, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > > > 1. Voicemail, and the voicemail itself will be stored on another box, > > > NFS mounted, or I might use mysql. There will be a li

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Antkowiak
>Also, NFS mounting of the voicemail for such a large install is probably >not the best idea. Unless you really need it available to another >machine, you _may_ want to rethink this idea. NFS can be a major speed >hit on a machine, especially if the client is overworked. Also if you >are planning o

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:11, Ryan Butler wrote: > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 13:30, Steven Critchfield wrote: > > > Don't use Mysql. if you ever have had to deal with it in a production > > environment that works it over, you will know that as it reaches it's > > limits, it starts a death spiral that i

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Ron Gage
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 02:30 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 11:02, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > > 1. Voicemail, and the voicemail itself will be stored on another box, > > NFS mounted, or I might use mysql. There will be a little bit of call > > routing via iax to a separate *

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Albertson
I've run tests with MySQL. It is very fast unless you have many processes that need to access it at once and then the weak point is it's locking method which let's only one process in at a time So you run into a wall as the size/complexity of your project grows past some point. But for a PBX all

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Joshua M. Thompson
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:30, Steven Critchfield wrote: > Don't use Mysql. if you ever have had to deal with it in a production > environment that works it over, you will know that as it reaches it's > limits, it starts a death spiral that is very difficult to recover from. > For our software on a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Ryan Butler
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 13:30, Steven Critchfield wrote: > Don't use Mysql. if you ever have had to deal with it in a production > environment that works it over, you will know that as it reaches it's > limits, it starts a death spiral that is very difficult to recover from. > For our software on a

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
very much. > > -Joe > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven > Critchfield > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards > > On Tue, 20

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 11:02, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > 1. Voicemail, and the voicemail itself will be stored on another box, NFS > mounted, or I might use mysql. There will be a little bit of call routing > via iax to a separate * box with a channel bank on it. > > 2. I don't disagree with you, th

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Antkowiak
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards > 3. Dual MB won't help much in pure telephony. > In pure telephony, you are basically dealing with serial line > IO. A T1 is little more than I long distance

RE: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-29 Thread Joe Antkowiak
ery much. -Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 16:05, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > Are there any known i

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-27 Thread Vincent Choy
e Live/Audilogy take most of the load.) - Original Message - From: "Mark Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards > > 3. Dual MB won't help much in pure tel

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-27 Thread Mark Spencer
> 3. Dual MB won't help much in pure telephony. > In pure telephony, you are basically dealing with serial line > IO. A T1 is little more than I long distance serial line. 8 T1s > is just 11.7megs per second each way, or 23.4 megs in and out. > Not too much for a good machin

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-27 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 16:05, Joe Antkowiak wrote: > Are there any known issues with putting 2 4-port T1 cards in a single box > and having all ports and all channels in use at the same time? Planning on > 4 of these boxes, dual AMD cpu MB from MSI, 512m, redhat 9, agp video, on > board NICs, seria

Re: [Asterisk-Users] 2 4-port T1 cards

2003-05-27 Thread Michael Labuschke
2(cards)*4(ports)*24(channel) = 192 channels *4 boxes= 768 calls ... you want to do a call center with * ? i would put more ram into the servers .. other than that .. go for it ;) michael *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 27.05.2003 at 17:05 Joe Antkowiak wrote: >Are there any known i