Chris Foster wrote:
The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the most powerful tool for
manipulating and accessing CPN data.."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/07/hackers_gut_voip/
I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid
Adam Hart wrote:
> These kind of things will be reason (excuse) for Voip to be regulated
The sad part is, it's like Gun control. The people who could be the most
dangerous will simply skip the public system.
If I want a gun for something illegitimate, I steal it, or buy it from
someone on a back
Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chris Foster wrote:
> > The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
> > Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the most powerful tool for
> > manipulating and accessing CPN data.."
> >
> > I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid's
Chris Foster wrote:
The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the most powerful tool for
manipulating and accessing CPN data.."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/07/hackers_gut_voip/
I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid
Chris Foster wrote:
The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the most powerful tool for
manipulating and accessing CPN data.."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/07/hackers_gut_voip/
I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid
why regulate? nobody regulates the return address on a letter sent via
USPS.
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From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:00 AM
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this is really simple, companies like Nortel, Lucent need to change
their code for caller id, if the number should be blocked then dont
transmit it to the far end switch
- hcir
On Jul 7, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Kevin Walsh wrote:
Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Foster wrote:
The Register is c
. McKee
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chris Foster wrote:
> > The Re
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
>
> Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Chris Foster wrote:
> > > The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
> > > Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the mo
MCI definately does this. We tryed out a sample to replace our CallerID
with the one we forwarded. Did not work :( otherwise it was really cool.
But I can imagine if someone talks SS7 noone could 'touch' them, or isn't
that true?
Stefan
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Kevin Walsh wrote:
> Adam Hart [EMAIL
hi...
here in Italy is almost impossible to set an
invalid cid, if is out of your allowed space.
ie. if you have X numbers on your PRI,
you can only set one of these. nothing more.
on bri you simply cannot do nothing.
just my 2 cents.
--
Brancaleoni Matteo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Espia Srl
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On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 05:29, Chris Foster wrote:
> I hope NuFone doesn't drop asterisk-set-able callerid's after this
> article; i've been wanting that feature from voicepluse for a long
> time.
My VoicePulse Connect line allows you to set Caller ID.
-- PhoneBoy
On Jul 7, 2004, at 7:00 AM, Kevin Walsh wrote:
Perhaps service providers who allow the Caller*ID to be set should
insist that customers provide evidence that they own the phone numbers
that they want to publish, and then limit the customers' choices to
only the numbers in their approved list. Call
I liked the "NuFone chief Jeremy McNamara didn't return phone calls for this
story."line. ;-)
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From: "Jeremy McNamara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Aster
Just asking for abuse though unless it is restricted or grounds for
termination without a refund,
People prefer to set their CID to a proper call back number such as
myself but it has can be used for less positive uses.
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:45:48 -0400, Jeremy McNamara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
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> Chris Foster wrote:
>
> > The Register is carrying a article written by Kevin Poulsen of
> > Securtiy Focus, calling asterisk "..the most powerful tool for
> > manipulating and accessing CPN
rich allen wrote:
> this is really simple, companies like Nortel, Lucent need to change
> their code for caller id, if the number should be blocked then dont
> transmit it to the far end switch
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if the options for this were already
implemented.
But, that's nothing
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy R.
> McKee
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> This has always been o
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:57:36AM -0800, rich allen wrote:
> this is really simple, companies like Nortel, Lucent need to change
> their code for caller id, if the number should be blocked then dont
> transmit it to the far end switch
Err, not quite right.
There are a few circumstances when c
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> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
> >
> > Adam Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Chris Foster wrote:
> > > > The Register is carrying a article writte
t: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
> why regulate? nobody regulates the return address on a letter sent via
> USPS.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: We
brian wrote:
Anyone with a PRI/ISDN line can set callerid to anything... Not just voip,
not just asterisk. Come on guys.
bkw
I thought that was the idea of using ISDN. We do it with PBXs all the
time, setting the callerid to your DDI number or just set every call to
appear to call from the ma
The switches already support this. In most parts of the world an end
user trunk can only use a caller ID within their allocated blocks of
numbers. Attempts to use other caller IDs usually result in the call
being rejected. In some cases it results in the call completing, but the
receiver sees a
JerJer said they never tried to call him.
bkw
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From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
> I liked the "NuFone chief
what do you mean "not quite right"???
if the clid is supposed to be blocked then don't send it. if the far
end is a law enforcement or emergency agency then the clid is NOT
supposed to be blocked!! if the originating switch had the ability to
send or not send, problem solved for voip providers f
rich allen wrote:
this is really simple, companies like Nortel, Lucent need to change
their code for caller id, if the number should be blocked then dont
transmit it to the far end switch
That's a really bad idea. Even worse than top-posting.
My local PSAP should know what number I'm calling fro
Chad Whitten wrote:
this is true, but Bellsouth (our local RBOC) only allows numbers in our DID
range to pass. I can set the outbound caller id to anything, but if its not
in our DID range, then the lead number of the DID range is sent out. Are
other telco's not doing this?
No, not as a rul
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this is true, but Bellsouth (our local RBOC) only allows numbers in our DID
range to pass. I can set the outbound caller id to any
> hi...
>
> here in Italy is almost impossible to set an
> invalid cid, if is out of your allowed space.
> ie. if you have X numbers on your PRI,
> you can only set one of these. nothing more.
> on bri you simply cannot do nothing.
>
> just my 2 cents.
Indeed I've noticed here in Australia on BR
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> why regulate? nobody regulates the return address on a letter sent via
> USPS.
>
>
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> From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
&
Alex wrote:
Bug generraly author of that article is an idiot. He does not understand the
difference beteween VOIP and ISDN PRI.
Right on! I agree completely.
Jeremy McNamara
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:19:44PM -0800, rich allen wrote:
> what do you mean "not quite right"???
> if the clid is supposed to be blocked then don't send it. if the far
> end is a law enforcement or emergency agency then the clid is NOT
> supposed to be blocked!! if the originating switch had
> However if I set the CallerID digits to anywhere within our 100-number block
> DID range, the exchange will happily pass on the specific number... guess it
> might be a combination of Euro ISDN standards and how the local telco's
> configure the exchanges.
Interesting. Our incumbent "Deutsche Te
address on a letter sent via
>USPS.
>
>
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>From: "Kevin Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:00 AM
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
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This is very interesting...
Regulations..USA...
But... what can i do faking a caller id? stolen what? what is the point?
miklos
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From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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It is imperative that the ability to set caller ID's is kept as we need this
in everyday business.
stuart
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:28 PM
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See bottom
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy R.
> McKee
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:05 AM
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> If he is rout
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> The real problem here is that people shouldn't be using callerid as an
> authentication scheme. Lots of people have had the ability to set
> arbitrary clid for
R. McKee
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On Jul 8, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Steve Kennedy wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 07:19:44PM -0800, rich allen wrote:
what do you mean "not quite right"???
i[..]"blocked clid"
CLID is NEVER blocked at the SS7 level (well almost), it flagged as
withheld.
Bingo, if you have a SS7 switch at the net then you c
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, brian wrote:
> Anyone with a PRI/ISDN line can set callerid to anything... Not just voip,
> not just asterisk. Come on guys.
>
> bkw
Yes, but the Telco has the ability to either pass or deny that. In my X/O
PRI configuration, I can only set the CallerID to a number within t
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 11:57:31AM -0400, Timothy R. McKee wrote:
> This has always been one of my pet peeves, even as I worked in the industry.
> A telco switch operating a DS1 on trunk side should enforce caller-id
> numbers to be within the range of DID numbers assigned to that trunk. There
> s
ent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP hackers gut Caller ID
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 11:57:31AM -0400, Timothy R. McKee wrote:
> This has always been one of my pet peeves, even as I worked in the
industry.
> A telco switch operating a DS1
Steve Kennedy wrote:
There are a few circumstances when called ID can be blocked (it's
rumoured certain spook agencies have this ability), however if a "user"
withholds CID, then it's just flagged at the local switch and passed
switch to switch with the withold CLI flag. The terminating switch
shou
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