RE: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-09-01 Thread steve
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Kris Boutilier wrote: Is timestamp information calculated purely from the relative timestamps of each frame of the current incoming stream or is there some degree of RTC synchronization expected between the two endpoints? No sync is needed; its all relative.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread steve
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Michael George wrote: So even with X11 eliminated the sound is still bad to Digium. I tried another's 1700 number, and it sounded the same, so it's not something unique to digium and me. Would IAX/GSM be so sensitive to half-duplex that I cannot expect it to work

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread steve
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Please note that it seems impossible to disable jitter buffer between 20040806 CVS HEAD endpoints. The jitterbuffer numbers in iax2 show channels look live. The numbers look right (jitbuf 0ms) between 20040806 and RC1 (Nufone). I haven't

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 29 August 2004 02:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Please note that it seems impossible to disable jitter buffer between 20040806 CVS HEAD endpoints. The jitterbuffer numbers in iax2 show channels look live. The numbers look right (jitbuf

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think that the jitter buffer isn't working right and should fix this, then please capture debug from the buffer and send over to me. To do that, in /etc/asterisk/logger.conf edit the debug line to be: debug =

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Linus Surguy
On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think that the jitter buffer isn't working right and should fix this, then please capture debug from the buffer and send over to me. I notice that the timing measurements are still showing wild values at times - here is a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread joachim
Those wild times especially occur before any audio is sent. (e.g. while ringing or pre ringing). At 17:10 29/08/2004, you wrote: On Sunday 29 August 2004 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you think that the jitter buffer isn't working right and should fix this, then please capture debug

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Michael George
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:31:48PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 23:01, Michael George wrote: It's a PII 266 (okay, not the fatest system) with 192MB RAM. X is not running and the Framebuffer has been turned off in /boot/grum/menu.lst. I have disabled all the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Linus Surguy
At 17:10 29/08/2004, you wrote: I notice that the timing measurements are still showing wild values at times - here is a partial grab of an iax2 show channels: Lag Jitter JitBuf Format 00020ms 6291456ms ms ALAW 00012ms 6291440ms ms ALAW 00017ms 0004ms ms ALAW

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Michael George
On Sun, Aug 29, 2004 at 07:59:20AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Michael George wrote: So even with X11 eliminated the sound is still bad to Digium. I tried another's 1700 number, and it sounded the same, so it's not something unique to digium and me. Would

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread steve
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Also, is are logs of problem conversations already in progress any use to you? You nailed down the dead audio after 65535ms problem but every now and again (very very rare) we will have a conversation where the incoming audio goes totally

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread steve
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, joachim wrote: Those wild times especially occur before any audio is sent. (e.g. while ringing or pre ringing). Yeah - because the sender does weird things to the timestamps it generates. This is the problem that needs to be resolved; the jitter buffer just shows

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 29 August 2004 15:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The jitter buffer makes all its decisions about dejittering based on the timestamps of incoming frames. There a fundamental expectation that the sending side is correctly stamping each frame - 20msec, 40msec etc etc. Right, this makes

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread steve
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: Hmm... I think next CVS update I'm gonna add a bit of code in chan_iax2 that tries to verify that timestamps aren't getting sent incorrectly. Fun fun fun. :-) Its not that the generation is broken. Its that various optimisations and things

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Michael George
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 11:31:48PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 23:01, Michael George wrote: It has nothing to do with IAX or GSM. Stop blaming them. My upstream is half duplex as well (pretty much anyone on DSL or cable is on a half duplex connection whether

RE: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-29 Thread Kris Boutilier
: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer {clip} The jitter buffer makes all its decisions about dejittering based on the timestamps of incoming frames. There a fundamental expectation that the sending side is correctly stamping each frame - 20msec, 40msec etc etc. The problem is that the sending

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Brian McSpadden
Does this also effect 1.0-RC2? I am having a similar issue at a customer site over a frame relay network that is having occasional choppy sound over a fairly open line, with the jitter buffer enabled, as well as trunk=yes enabled. Thanks! Brian On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:47:05 -0700, Kris Boutilier

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Rich Adamson
Had this problem earlier this week - ensure 'trunk=no' in iax.conf if you're using fairly current CVS code. There is something not right w/the trunking that causes choppy sound. See the wiki for more info. I am using current CVS code and I have trunk=no. Still sounds crappy. I need to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Scott Laird
On Aug 28, 2004, at 7:39 AM, Rich Adamson wrote: I do a lot of work with companies throughout the US on network performance and we _frequently_ run into routers, switches, servers, etc, that are allowed to auto-negotiate their half vs full duplex nic interfaces. About 50% of the time, systems

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Michael George
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 08:39:50AM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: I do a lot of work with companies throughout the US on network performance and we _frequently_ run into routers, switches, servers, etc, that are allowed to auto-negotiate their half vs full duplex nic interfaces. About 50% of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Michael George
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 03:00:26PM -0400, Michael George wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 08:39:50AM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: I do a lot of work with companies throughout the US on network performance and we _frequently_ run into routers, switches, servers, etc, that are allowed to

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Michael Graves
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:24:01 -0400, Michael George wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 03:00:26PM -0400, Michael George wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 08:39:50AM -0600, Rich Adamson wrote: I do a lot of work with companies throughout the US on network performance and we _frequently_ run into

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 28 August 2004 15:00, Michael George wrote: The difference between that and what I'm getting from IAX/GSM is profound, with GSM being intolerably poor quality. That's odd; every single voice call coming in and out of the company I work for is using the GSM codec with asterisk and

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 28 August 2004 15:24, Michael George wrote: I just saw a page on the wiki that mentions that running X11 or a VESA frame buffer can cause jittery sound. I only have this problem with IAX2, but that might be cause when I use Zap -- Zap or Zap -- SIP there is no en/decoding

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Michael George
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 05:08:30PM -0400, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Saturday 28 August 2004 15:24, Michael George wrote: I just saw a page on the wiki that mentions that running X11 or a VESA frame buffer can cause jittery sound. I only have this problem with IAX2, but that might be cause

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-28 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 28 August 2004 23:01, Michael George wrote: It's a PII 266 (okay, not the fatest system) with 192MB RAM. X is not running and the Framebuffer has been turned off in /boot/grum/menu.lst. I have disabled all the servers except for sshd. I have the latest source from CVS HEAD as of

RE: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-27 Thread Kris Boutilier
Had this problem earlier this week - ensure 'trunk=no' in iax.conf if you're using fairly current CVS code. There is something not right w/the trunking that causes choppy sound. See the wiki for more info. Kris Boutilier Information Systems Coordinator Sunshine Coast Regional District

Re: [Asterisk-Users] iaxtel and jitterbuffer

2004-08-27 Thread Michael George
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:47:05PM -0700, Kris Boutilier wrote: Had this problem earlier this week - ensure 'trunk=no' in iax.conf if you're using fairly current CVS code. There is something not right w/the trunking that causes choppy sound. See the wiki for more info. I am using current CVS