Re: Notes on the latest draft - atom:author/atom:uri

2005-07-19 Thread Eric Scheid
On 20/7/05 3:08 PM, "James Cerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Section 3.2.2: > -- >> The "atom:uri" element's content conveys an IRI associated with the person. >> Person constructs MAY contain an atom:uri element, but MUST NOT contain more >> than one. The content of atom:uri in a

Notes on the latest draft.

2005-07-19 Thread James Cerra
I took some notes while reading the specification. Not all of them are good notes, and I was cranky while writing them. Still, they do have some issues or slightly vague points about the spec from my view point. Section 1.2: > http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom I guess consistancy is n

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-20 01:20]: > While I agree this interpretation is potentially correct, it > moves us pretty far away from the idea of a self-contained > document with a singular embedded base URI, which is all that > RFC2396 ever discusses. That is pretty much what I said;

FYI: draft-snell-atompub-feed-index-00.txt

2005-07-19 Thread James M Snell
FYI... I've submitted an I-D for my Feed Index extension. Not sure when it will be published. I uploaded a copy here: http://www.snellspace.com/public/draft-snell-atompub-feed-index-00.txt - James

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread Graham
On 19 Jul 2005, at 9:28 am, A. Pagaltzis wrote: Now, xml:base appears to try to address the situation where an aggregate document may contain fragments from many sources, and each of which thus has its own base URI. While I agree this interpretation is potentially correct, it moves us prett

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Sjoerd Visscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-19 12:35]: > I don't find applying same-document reference behaviour to > fragments of an aggregate document non-sensical. If I XInclude > a piece of XHTML that has same-document references in it, I > still want them to be same-document references, an

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread Antone Roundy
Reluctantly, I must admit that I can't find anything in RFC 3986 or the xml:base spec to convince me that the "same document reference" rule doesn't cause the problems for Tim's feed that have been asserted. The existence of the text regarding same document references, and the fact that that

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
On Jul 19, 2005, at 3:23 AM, Sjoerd Visscher wrote: A. Pagaltzis wrote: It makes me wonder whether the person who wrote the example was unaware of the consequences of the same-document reference specifications in the URI RFC. Surely, the xml:base WG must have noticed this issue and dis

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread Dave Pawson
If anyone comes to a definitive conclusion on this, would they post to the list, or a website please. TIA -- Regards, Dave Pawson XSLT + Docbook FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Antone Roundy
On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Antone Roundy wrote: On Monday, July 18, 2005, at 01:59 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote: Ch 3. fh:stateful seems to be only needed for a newborn stateful feed. As an alternative one could drop fh:stateful and define that an empty fh:prev (refering to itself)

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Antone Roundy
On Monday, July 18, 2005, at 01:59 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote: Ch 3. fh:stateful seems to be only needed for a newborn stateful feed. As an alternative one could drop fh:stateful and define that an empty fh:prev (refering to itself) is the last document in a stateful feed. That would eliminate

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread Sjoerd Visscher
A. Pagaltzis wrote: It makes me wonder whether the person who wrote the example was unaware of the consequences of the same-document reference specifications in the URI RFC. Surely, the xml:base WG must have noticed this issue and discussed it? I wonder how many people are aware of it. I won

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Henry Story
On 19 Jul 2005, at 01:52, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Mark Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-18 23:30]: This is one of the unanswered questions that I left out of scope. The consumer can examine the previous archive's URI and decide as to whether it's seen it or not before, and therefore a

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Henry Story
On 18 Jul 2005, at 23:21, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 18/07/2005, at 2:17 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: On a more semantic issue: The described sync algorithm will work. In most scenarios the abort condition (e.g. all items on a historical feed are known) will also do the job. However this sti

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 18.07.2005 um 23:21 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 18/07/2005, at 2:17 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: On a more semantic issue: The described sync algorithm will work. In most scenarios the abort condition (e.g. all items on a historical feed are known) will also do the job. However this still

Re: Atom 1.0 xml:base/URI funnies

2005-07-19 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-19 08:25]: > Why does xml:base allow for relative base URIs and stacking > then? If xml:base can only describe the actual source URI of > the document, then these features don't make sense. Indeed, they don’t. > The example in the xml:base spec [1] use