RE: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Bob Wyman
Bill de hÓra wrote: the problem is managing the stream buffer off the wire for a protocol model that has no underlying concept of an octet frame. I've written enough XMPP code to understand why the BEEP/MIME crowd might frown at it Framing is, in fact, an exceptionally important

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Aug 23, 2005, at 07:27, A. Pagaltzis wrote: I still dislike the idea of a “virtual closing tag” – it ain’t 1995 anymore, after all. You seem to be thinking that an XML parser needs to consider the whole document before reporting data to the app. This is not the case. If you have a

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Bill de hÓra
Tim Bray wrote: On Aug 22, 2005, at 7:26 AM, Joe Gregorio wrote: Essentially, LiveJournal is making this data available to anybody who wishes to access it, without any need to register or to invent a unique API. Ahh, I had thought this was a more dedicated ping traffic stream. The

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Tim Bray wrote: That's a bit misleading, a fatal error just means that the XML processor must report the error to the application and that the processor is not required by the XML specification to continue processing; doing so is however an optional feature and further processing would be

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Antone Roundy
On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 09:54 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Martin Duerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-23 05:10]: Well, modulo character encoding issues, that is. An FF will look differently in UTF-16 than in ASCII-based encodings. Depends on whether you specify a single encoding for all

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Walter Underwood
--On August 23, 2005 9:40:44 AM +0300 Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's nothing in the XML spec requiring the app to throw away the data structures it has already built when the parser reports the error. There is also nothing requiring it. It is optional. The only reqired

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Graham
On 23 Aug 2005, at 2:57 pm, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: No. See, http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#sec-terminology, under fatal error. -Tim Yes, exactly what I wrote... the XML processor must report the error to the application and that the processor is not required by the XML specification to

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Graham wrote: the XML processor must report the error to the application and that the processor is not required by the XML specification to continue processing; doing so is however an optional feature and further processing would be implementation-defined vs Once a fatal error is detected,

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Bray
On Aug 23, 2005, at 6:57 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: That's a bit misleading, a fatal error just means that the XML processor must report the error to the application and that the processor is not required by the XML specification to continue processing; doing so is however an optional

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Bray
On Aug 22, 2005, at 9:27 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: It's got another advantage. You connect and ask for the feed. You get feed xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom; ... goes on forever and none of the entry documents need to redeclare the Atom namespace, which saves quite a few

Re: If you want Fat Pings just use Atom!

2005-08-23 Thread Tim Bray
On Aug 22, 2005, at 9:56 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: If you encounter a busted tag on the Nth entry, per the XML spec that's a fatal error and you can't process any more. That's a bit misleading, a fatal error just means that the XML processor must report the error to the application and

Updated License and Expires Extensions

2005-08-23 Thread James M Snell
I've updated the License and Expiration Extension Proposals to reflect the recent discussion about metadata inheritance. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-feed-license-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-feed-expires-01.txt The license draft

Re: geolocation in atom:author?

2005-08-23 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 05-08-21 à 11:45, Paul Hoffman a écrit : At 12:17 AM +1000 8/22/05, Eric Scheid wrote: #2 through #4 seem understandable, but what the heck is #1? The place where this feed was put together? The place where this feed was originally grabbed from? hmmm really? author