Re: Atom Entry docs

2006-12-14 Thread Kyle Marvin
+1 to "yeah, what Bob said". We'll still have to manage the transition around clients that don't send "type=entry" to GData services, but if we can point at an APP spec where this param is required on POST/PUT, it's possible to push through this. -- Kyle On 12/14/06, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Atom Entry docs

2006-12-13 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/13/06, Sylvain Hellegouarch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Consider GData apps. Their docs aren't clear (tsk, tsk!) about the > use of a media type when inserting entries[1], but if they're doing it > properly then their services should be keying off of > "application/atom+xml", and so wi

Re: Atom Entry Documents

2006-12-12 Thread Kyle Marvin
Hi Mark, I realize the question is part process and part technical, but here's my wish for the technical portion: I'm hoping that whatever is done can be additive and optional, such that it can enable new capabilities without disrupting existing usage of 4287 (only). This is one of the reasons

Re: Atom Entry Documents

2006-12-11 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/11/06, Eric Scheid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/12/06 5:56 AM, "Kyle Marvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> application/atom+xml; type=entry >> application/atom+xml; type=feed > I believe other UA-visible Atom document syntax qualifiers wil

Re: Atom Entry Documents

2006-12-11 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/10/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, the recent discussion seems to point towards a consensus towards distinctly flagging Entry Documents in the media type. The only question is whether or not to use a new media type or an optional type param. I'm going to write up an I-D

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-06 Thread Kyle Marvin
I feel like this whole discussion about whether an entry is logically equivalent to a feed is a little bit of a red herring. To me, the important justification for forking the Atom content type comes from a belief that this is useful information that you need *before* you retrieve/process the ta

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/1/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're right that the differentiation in the content-type is of less importance but without it there's no way for me to unambiguously indicate that a resource has both an Atom Feed representation and an Atom Entry representation. I can see

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 12/1/06, James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kyle Marvin wrote: > [snip] > I expect that if you associated a 'rel' value with links that point to > "application/atom+xml", whether it is expected to be a feed or an entry > would probably be part

Re: PaceEntryMediatype

2006-12-01 Thread Kyle Marvin
I'm still listening to the debate, but Mark's argument resonates with me. It seems like 'content-type' is more about the expected syntax of the resource at the other end of the wire, not it's semantic meaning. I don't see Atom feeds and entries as syntactically different enough to warrant unique

Re: Feed thread update

2006-05-04 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 5/4/06, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 4, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Thomas Broyer wrote: > > > Things would have been far easier if either a) atom:link were > > extensible > > This assertion that atom:link is not extensible is simply, flatly, > completely, wrong. I just went and review

Re: Google Calendar

2006-04-13 Thread Kyle Marvin
On 4/13/06, John Panzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Google Calendar has launched (and there was much rejoicing). It uses > Atom feeds for public calendar information: > I'm wondering if these have been documented somewhere -- anyone from > Google on the list? Hi John, The extensions used in