Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-19 Thread Julian Reschke
Robert Sayre schrieb: ... Thanks for the clarification. You may have missed another question I recently asked, so I'll repeat it here. I am concerned that purl.org lists the document author as the owner of the namespace URI, and I wonder how the IESG came to the conclusion that the namespace is

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-19 Thread Sylvain Hellegouarch
Although I share Robert's concerns about how this spec became a Proposed Standard, I really have trouble to see the issue here. As a matter of fact, I'm using a purl.org URL in one of my (non-Atom related) drafts as well. What we're talking about here is not change control over the

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-19 Thread Julian Reschke
Sylvain Hellegouarch schrieb: ... Just a thought like that but wouldn't it make sense for RFC 4287 to have specified that every standardised extension should follow the same namespace as RFC 4287? For instance RFC 4287 uses http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom Extensions should then be something like:

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-19 Thread Robert Sayre
On 7/19/06, Julian Reschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we're talking about here is not change control over the namespace or the namespace name! It's about what happens if an HTTP client dereferences that URL, which is irrelevant for the purpose of XML namespaces. It's irrelevant for the

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-19 Thread James M Snell
http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0 now redirects to the draft-12 spec. When the rfc is minted, it will redirect to the rfc. - James Julian Reschke wrote: Robert Sayre schrieb: ... Thanks for the clarification. You may have missed another question I recently asked, so I'll repeat it

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-18 Thread Lisa Dusseault
I can't speak for all of the IESG, how closely they reviewed the document and how carefully they considered the appropriateness of the namespace. We don't have rules against such namespace choices. We could argue about whether or not we should have such rules, but the results of that

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-18 Thread Robert Sayre
On 7/18/06, Lisa Dusseault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't have rules against such namespace choices. We could argue about whether or not we should have such rules, Well, there is a BCP about this. At this point, it's very rare to pull a document or change something like this that would

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-11 Thread Martin Duerst
At 10:43 06/07/10, Robert Sayre wrote: Hi Lisa, Thanks for the clarification. You may have missed another question I recently asked, so I'll repeat it here. I am concerned that purl.org lists the document author as the owner of the namespace URI, and I wonder how the IESG came to the conclusion

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-11 Thread Robert Sayre
On 7/11/06, Martin Duerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:43 06/07/10, Robert Sayre wrote: Hi Lisa, Thanks for the clarification. You may have missed another question I recently asked, so I'll repeat it here. I am concerned that purl.org lists the document author as the owner of the namespace

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-11 Thread James M Snell
All I need to know is who to transfer it to. - James Martin Duerst wrote: At 10:43 06/07/10, Robert Sayre wrote: Hi Lisa, Thanks for the clarification. You may have missed another question I recently asked, so I'll repeat it here. I am concerned that purl.org lists the document author

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-09 Thread Robert Sayre
On 7/4/06, Lisa Dusseault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote the synopsis, in which I was careful not to state that it was a WG document. I believe it was accurate for what it said although it's very brief. I discussed explicitly with the IESG during the IESG tele-conference calls that there

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-07-04 Thread Lisa Dusseault
I wrote the synopsis, in which I was careful not to state that it was a WG document. I believe it was accurate for what it said although it's very brief. I discussed explicitly with the IESG during the IESG tele-conference calls that there was some lengthy debate and disagreement over

Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-06-26 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Atom Threading Extensions ' draft-snell-atompub-feed-thread-12.txt as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Lisa Dusseault. A URL of this

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-06-26 Thread Robert Sayre
On 6/26/06, The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working Group Summary This is not a WG draft. Nevertheless, the AtomPub WG discussion on this draft was fairly lengthy, and resulted in a number of changes to the draft. Who wrote this summary? Even Paul went on the record saying there was no

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-06-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 8:35 PM -0400 6/26/06, Robert Sayre wrote: On 6/26/06, The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working Group Summary This is not a WG draft. Nevertheless, the AtomPub WG discussion on this draft was fairly lengthy, and resulted in a number of changes to the draft. Who wrote this summary?

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-06-26 Thread Robert Sayre
On 6/26/06, Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reading might differ from others'. I've read a lot of these, so I know this synopsis differs others. Usually they stuff like WG is OK with this. It's perfectly natural to question and appropriate things that seem out of the ordinary. In

Re: Protocol Action: 'Atom Threading Extensions' to Proposed Standard

2006-06-26 Thread Robert Sayre
On 6/26/06, Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/26/06, Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reading might differ from others'. I've read a lot of these, so I know this synopsis differs others. Usually they stuff like WG is OK with this. It's perfectly natural to question and