ar Fedora processes.
> It's always been a bit confusing, but Project Atomic proper was
> explicitly chartered *not* to distribute an OS, for reasons I don't
> think I ever fully understood. But it's always been the Fedora and
> CentOS projects (and Red Hat, for RHEL Ato
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>
> We'll discuss this tommorrow at the Fedora Atomic meeting (12:30 EST).
>
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+1 to skip
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>
>
> On 08/27/2017 02:32 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
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> > Should we skip to next meeting?
>
> +1
>
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Yup.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Since pretty much no evenings are available, could folks meet up durning
> Thursday Lunch to do an Atomic WG meeting/discussion?
>
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ase reply to this email with any discussion topics you may have.
>
> See you on #atomic then.
>
>
>
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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 02:14:05PM +0000, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> > > > create some tags.
> > > How does one follow this? Is there a way to setup a notification if
> > > anyone mentions keywords?
> &g
ere a way to setup a notification if
> anyone mentions keywords?
>
No way that I know of, unfortunately.
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ow.com/search?q=fedora+atomic
>
> Also search on individual projects:
> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=cockpit
> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=skopeo
>
> Also unix.stackexchange.com:
>
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/search?q=atomic+host
> etc ...
>
> --
> -
and help shape its future.
>
> Any objections?
>
> Jonathan
>
> [1] https://github.com/cgwalters/rpmdistro-gitoverlay
> [2] https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Atomic/Devel
> [3] https://pagure.io/fedora-atomic-host-continuous/
> [4] https://github.com/jlebon/papr/issues/10
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Centos Container Pipeline.
> > Barring other ideas, I'll do that this week.
>
> +1
>
> >
> > (and yes, we still plan on a total website redesign, but that's still
> > wating on design resources)
> >
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> > Project Atomic
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> >
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day to day, but if you don't have any other
takers, I'll be there anyway.
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t; single-user
> > use case.
>
> You can run `oc cluster up` on it... so, yes
>
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be a good
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comparisons w/Alpine and once you load up an
application the size differential is seriously reduced.
(e.g., try adding PHP to Alpine and then see how it compares, size-wise.)
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s-init).
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> There's an issue with the mirrors; it started at Summit, and apparently
> hasn't been resolved.
Do we have a ticket open for this, or...?
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ps here, and is that something one can do
without `setenforce 0`?
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ions/patches. This something I'd like to see
as well, but I don't know that I'm the best person to try to implement
it... (Which is to say, I could hack at it, but I don't think anybody would
be pleased by the results.)
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Not to say we don't need to reduce image size, but perhaps starting from
base image size is less like real life than looking at the finished image
size as deployed?
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t seems equally at home in
> github.com/projectatomic -
> any objections to moving it here?
>
No objections here.
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n exception for something
non-controversial like this, but 24 hours isn't much time for folks who
may be behind on email, etc.
But I'm very much +1 to the proposal otherwise.
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of work to evenly communicate things to all the people who we
know something is immediately relevant to, and even more to hit all the
folks who are potentially affected or potentially assisted by a new feature.
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On 03/28/2016 10:39 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
> I think with the new "ostree admin unlock" verb in OSTree v2016.4 that has
> changed:
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/ostree-list/2016-March/msg9.html
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about markup, the more time
I have to actually write. Pretty sure that will hold true for casual
contributors and folks who only care about one specific area for
documentationizing.
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any chance we can move it towards either
ASCIIdoc or Markdown and not have a third format in contention?
Glad to move away from SGML/XML/Docbook, but would rather not have to
maintain brain space for **four** concurrent similar but different
markup formats (MediaWiki, Markdown, ASCIIDoc, and RST
On 03/07/2016 11:49 AM, Matt Micene wrote:
>
> There's a stagnant group of us who are also intending to write official
> Fedora Docs, which needs reStructuredText support.
Was that ever decided, officially? I seem to recall some discussion and
then it just trailed off.
Best
n't want to
venture into anything beyond that.
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et's consider this very *ing
urgent and get it fixed, please.
As for the other - let's map out content-wise what we want, and then we
can discuss designers, etc.
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On 02/15/2016 01:45 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> I mean, 3 days is enough, but not if Day 1 is Good Friday or July 3rd.
Well, I mean business days really. I don't really count Sat/Sun, holidays.
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On 02/15/2016 01:36 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> 4. Wait about one week for feedback.
>>
Otherwise looks good, but I'd say 72 hours is enough wait time for lazy
consensus.
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tainers with 1.9 after migration).
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esting for F23 so long as
it never goes to stable (for F23). But *after* we put out warnings to
the community via Fedora Magazine and Project Atomic.
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ases should stick with 1.9 until we
have given users adequate notice about this and 1.10 is adequately tested.
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didn't think to check
the trac. Thanks muchly for the speedy response!
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e need to better explain to FESCO how this works and assuage
the concern that we are shipping an easy hack that would let people
enter dev mode in systems that are not meant to be running in dev mode.
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was working to remove the dependency so it
> may no longer be an issue.
If we can do this in containers, all the better - though I'd say we
would need to scope documentation runbooks because we'd probably need to
provide some guidance on doing that effectively.
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t:1
>>
>>
>> I'm not familiar enough with either solution, so I was hoping that the
>> community could weigh in on what makes more sense.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Micah
>>
> I think you should choose option1.
>
Yeah, I want to create
for
Atomic after a build step that we might create some hard-to-troubleshoot
issues for packagers who maintain any/all of the Python packages in
question. I'm all for slimming down the Atomic images, but preferably in
a way where we're helping to slim down things overall. (Or maybe this
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y" to do things in Atomic. While kubernetes is great, I'd
>> prefer to offer the userbase more freedom to choose how they deploy
>> and manage docker containers on an Atomic Host and Ansbile seems to be
>> quite popular among the Atomic Host userbase (just in general, not
>
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:13:17 AM Stef Walter wrote:
> On 27.10.2015 09:59, Tomas Tomecek wrote:
> > Quoting Joe Brockmeier (2015-10-27 01:55:17)
> >
> >> Any chance this is going to be a Cloud feature for Fedora 24?
> >> (Probably jst a bit late to sl
seful). I've opened several RFEs in
> issue tracker which could tell what's planned in future.
>
> All your feedback is very welcome!
Any chance this is going to be a Cloud feature for Fedora 24? (Probably
jst a bit late to slip into F23 now.)
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g to support python 3 on nodes to be managed for a while.
>
> How could a containerized python 2 work? I don't see a way on how it
> could work. So is the only option to roll your own atomic hosts?
What's the minimum amount of they py2 stack we'd need to support Ansible?
Best,
o objection to doing this, but we should make some noise before
switching over and have some kind of warning period before it happens.
(An accompanying "here's how you use this feature" post / documentation
would also be spiffy.)
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>
> Let's agree to make tags and announce releases here
> in the future?
+1 That would be fantastic.
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On 09/29/2015 03:54 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> I don't see any reason not to do this; any thoughts/objections
> from other repo admins[1]?
No objection here.
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On 09/28/2015 10:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
>
> On 09/28/2015 10:10 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>
>> On 09/28/2015 09:27 AM, Scott Collier wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/28/2015 08:23 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>>>> On 09/28/2015 09:13 AM, Scott Co
eeks, but we can start
> collecting feedback here.
>
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On 09/22/2015 05:26 PM, James wrote:
> As long as package 'jzb' is not installed, then we're good ;)
Damn. Why you gotta be like that?
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On 09/22/2015 03:42 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> > emacs-filesystem
Wut.
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>> If you plan to store substantial data in /, it's also possible to extend the
>> root LV.
>
> Nothing is being stored in /
This would be a good thing to document and/or blog about - any
volunteers? (He asked, hopefully)
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etings - there's the CentOS
SIG meeting and Fedora Cloud. I'm amenable to doing just one joint
meeting or finding some way to merge them, though.
Also cc'ing the CentOS devel list.
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gt; This is less a debugging thing and more something that needs to be executed
> every time a udp-publishing container is restarted.
>
> Having to do a `docker run` in an ExecStartPre feels wrong, but, it does
> work. Thanks.
I'm not trying to completely rule out adding this, j
ns for Fedora Atomic in Bugzilla.)
Generally we'd add in the Fedora Cloud Trac:
https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/
We don't typically add tools for short-term debugging... is there a way
you could do this with a privileged container?
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be python2 and libselinux-python.
>
> I know we added python2 by hand, just want to ask that libselinux
> -python also be added if it isn't...
So... we just put in a patch to remove python2 from Fedora 23+, is this
going to be an issue?
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rt, to be honest. This sounds a bit
outside the scope of our current user scenarios. I guess Colin would be
the right person to ask if he's ever thought about / done any work
towards converting a running system from a standard RHEL/Fedora/CentOS
system to one using rpm-ostree.
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doraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default)
This looks OK to me. Any objections?
Not sure if Colin wants to do the honors, or anybody else?
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> I'll update asap.
Thanks!
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in case anyone wanted to kick the tires on this stuff
> over the weekend.
Awesome - can you poke me ahead of time so I can announce in
$all-the-places?
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pm-ostree
updates, etc.?
No - this isn't something you can install on a running CentOS host.
You'd need to install an atomic build from the start.
What's your scenario here? Are you being provided hosts from another
department and just unable to use the images of your choice, or..
ship (send off-list!) and roughly how many attendees you expect.
Also, I'm happy to help promote any meetups related to Atomic via
Twitter, Facebook, Google+, and the project blog.
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ng other meetups, it sounds like you have a handle on how
to schedule & promote events already. Are you looking for speakers,
permission, etc.? How can we help?
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7;t notice that.
Trevor, can we work this up as a post for Project Atomic? Anything here
that's non-suitable? (I don't think so...)
Note I have a few posts I need to edit and push this week, have been a
bit behind.
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My feeling now is that Atomic only needs that which you'd want *before*
> running Docker or which should always be regulated to the host (i.e.
> power-management, networking).
I might just steal this idea... after Summit.
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y for testing
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 18/06/15 21:49, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>>> http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/atomic-host/x86_64/images/
>>>
>>> This includes 2 flavors of Vagrant box (libvirt/KVM and VirtualBox), a
>>> qcow2 image, and ISO
image, and ISO image suitable for installing onto bare metal or
other environments.
We've done some preliminary testing but more is needed. We're hoping to
announce next week, so I'd invite all interested parties to test these
and let us know if you find any anomalies.
Best,
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nating vagrant work. I don't
see that as a blocker but it would be good if all the folks working on
various vagrant things were talking to avoid duplication of effort.
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On 05/15/2015 02:10 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> If I heard of that before, it fell out of my brain. :) Sounds very
> interesting.
https://github.com/vmware/tdnf
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On 05/15/2015 01:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Python is probably the next big one, but we can't get rid of that
> until there's a good way to run DNF externally.
Have we looked at tiny-dnf? The VMware folks have expressed interest in
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icApp - https://github.com/vpavlin/atomicapp-run)
over to the Project Atomic github space shortly.
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forever.
>
> [1] There are some times in computing where what one writes must sound
> really quite strange to those outside of the industry.
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;t my biggest concern. I agree here. The concern is
we're close to freeze and if we make any changes that affect the
compose, we may wind up not shipping an F22 Atomic. Currently, our
compose seems to be stable (?) and we're on track to ship it. We should
probably not jeopardize th
re to have this as a topic for Thursday's meeting (CentOS
SIG) and perhaps the Wednesday Cloud Working Group meeting (Fedora)? In
fact, we might need a Trac ticket for this w/in Fedora. Thoughts?
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:
https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/
Or maybe we need a page similar to that on Project Atomic.
Alternatively/additionally - might be nice to have an expanded post that
discusses how you're using Atomic as a minimal host on OS X.
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ic/rpm-ostree, but I strongly feel we should have an Atomic
Host image that's as small as possible with the idea that users are
never directly SSH'ing into the image.*
(* Barring troubleshooting.)
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ux?
Note - we are currently shipping Fedora with a bunch of packages that
are really unnecessary in practice for anyone using Atomic as it's meant
to be used. Short term, this is OK b/c most people using Atomic are
doing so as you are -- long term, that's a severely broken practice.
Best,
On 04/17/2015 09:15 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015, at 02:45 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Did I miss something, or when did we decide to add "screen"? IIRC that
>> was discussed and rejected, as we already provide tmux.
Hey all,
Did I miss something, or when did we decide to add "screen"? IIRC that
was discussed and rejected, as we already provide tmux.
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with updates to the RPMs that go into Docker containers - if some http
> library
> breaks it may just affect your app and not the host, etc.
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1197204
> ___
> cloud mailing list
> cl...@lists.fedo
lly into g.c.o
* jzb set up meeting to align 4-week cycle.
* lalatenduM set up discussion with kbsingh and langdon about
os-release, report back to atomic-devel
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the conversation via issues, this email or pull requests.
Are you still fleshing out "Full access admin" or..?
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signatu
t shouldn't be installed as
a singleton anyway.
We need to document this well - maybe have an Ansible script and sample
KS script that will do the magic for users so they don't need to figure
it out on their own.
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