> I was disabling some of the automatic setup. My original purpose of this
> was to try to reduce my emacs startup time.
In an ideal ELPA world, startup is fast because the automatic setup is
cheap (just a few autoloads and such). So if the automatic setup is too
slow, that can be for one of two
> I must say that I find it far from obvious that it's unwieldy.
I guess 30 packages isn't necessarily unwieldy. I'll rephrase - I have had
many times where I start on a new machine with a newly installed emacs, and
I would like for all 30 packages to be installed automatically (instead of
manuall
> Another problem seems to be that installing AUCTeX from ELPA via use-package
> does not work because that forcefully does (require ') under the
> hoods.
Actually (require 'auctex) does work with the ELPA package *if*
package-initialize was run before (and without a non-nil argument).
Calling pac
> I have around 30 packages that I install through ELPA. Since this is pretty
> unwieldy,
I must say that I find it far from obvious that it's unwieldy.
> I have these all configured using the "use-package" macro,
By that do you mean that you first go through the trouble of disabling
the normal
Hi Tassilo,
2016-07-27 18:59 GMT+02:00 Tassilo Horn :
> Another problem seems to be that installing AUCTeX from ELPA via use-package
> does not work because that forcefully does (require ') under the
> hoods. If that is true, then I'd consider it a bug in use-package. I don't
> think there is a re
Hi guys,
currently I have no internet connection at home except for my mobile, but
I've read the bug thread now. I'm not exactly sure what's the exact
problem. So please excuse my questions.
One problem seems to be that you cannot preload AUCTeX. Right? OK, here I'd
say that it is intentiona
I completely understand the problem of slow a slow emacs startup - that's
actually why i started using use-package.
So behind the scenes, use-package creates all these autoloads to speed up
startup.
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Mosè Giordano wrote:
> Hi Caleb,
>
> 2016-07-27 17:51 GMT+02:00
Here are my two cents as a somewhat average emacs user (then I'll butt out
and let you all decide what you want to do).
I have around 30 packages that I install through ELPA. Since this is pretty
unwieldy, I have these all configured using the "use-package" macro, which
will automatically download
Hi Caleb,
2016-07-27 17:51 GMT+02:00 Caleb Rottman :
> Here are my two cents as a somewhat average emacs user (then I'll butt out
> and let you all decide what you want to do).
>
> I have around 30 packages that I install through ELPA. Since this is pretty
> unwieldy, I have these all configured u
Hi Stefan,
2016-07-27 5:14 GMT+02:00 Stefan Monnier :
> The intent is not to make the installation easier.
> It's to make it compatible with the old (require 'tex-site) method.
> But as mentioned, maybe rather than make (require 'tex-site) work, it
> might be preferable to emit a warning explainin
> Sorry, I don't quite understand the purpose of the patch. Is it
> intended for the ELPA version of AUCTeX or for the upstream package?
The ELPA version.
> The fact that the package is against tex-site.el in ELPA makes me
> think it's for the ELPA version of AUCTeX. In that case, I don't have
Hi Stefan,
2016-07-26 19:44 GMT+02:00 Stefan Monnier :
>> Still, this workaround seem a little odd to me. First, It seems odd that I
>> can't start AUCTeX "when I want", i.e., by using the line (load "auctex.el"
>> nil t t), even though this worked for me in previous versions of auctex
>> (11.89
> Still, this workaround seem a little odd to me. First, It seems odd that I
> can't start AUCTeX "when I want", i.e., by using the line (load "auctex.el"
> nil t t), even though this worked for me in previous versions of auctex
> (11.89 and 11.88).
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