[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What kind of Burr-Brown does SB2 have?

2005-09-13 Thread GreenMan
seanadams Wrote: > There isn't a simple answer to this. SB2 uses the PCM1748, but the DAC > chip alone does not dictate the performance of the whole system - it > can be somewhat better or much worse than the data-sheet specs > depending on the design. Since the DAC chip is only one component of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What kind of Burr-Brown does SB2 have?

2005-09-13 Thread seanadams
There isn't a simple answer to this. SB2 uses the PCM1748, but the DAC chip alone does not dictate the performance of the whole system - it can be somewhat better or much worse than the data-sheet specs depending on the design. Since the DAC chip is only one component of the whole clocking + power

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What kind of Burr-Brown does SB2 have?

2005-09-13 Thread cbemoore
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15716 -- cbemoore ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What kind of Burr-Brown does SB2 have?

2005-09-13 Thread GreenMan
I know the SB2 has a Burr-Brown in it, but I don't know what calliber. I'm interested in maybe putting a Channel Islands VDA-1 external DAC on my SB2, but the Channel Islands unit itself has a Burr-Brown in it. Some in this forum claim an improvement in sound. Is that because of a 'better' Burr-Br

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread seanadams
The PCI bus (the only example I can think of) does this in order to reduce EMI and switching current at the expense of speed. It's definitely not the s/pdif spec though, and seems like kind of a bad idea for a self-clocking transmission line where cable length is not controlled. -- seanadams _

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread MarcBernard
Thank you Sean, That was the information I was looking for. Actually, it is acceptable to back match a 75 ohm transmission line with only a source match and an infinite impedance at the load. This is appropriately known as "back-matching". In this type of transmission system, the voltage at the

RE: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A real commitment to SB: sold my CD12

2005-09-13 Thread Neil Davidson
> Ah, sadly I am planning to Raid 0 them. I decided to go with > the fastest possible C: drive config I could (and yes, I > realise that raid 0 doubles that chance of catastrophic C: > drive failure so my backup regime will be rigorous). > I don't want to rain on your parade so to speak as fa

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread seanadams
The driver impedance is 75 ohms, as should be your cable. If the load is not terminated (?!?!?!) then yes you'd need to add a 75 ohm resistor. I have never heard of a DAC not having a termination resistor. Some have a jumper inside so you can make it terminated or not (in order to drive multiple

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A real commitment to SB: sold my CD12

2005-09-13 Thread Robin Bowes
PhilNYC said the following on 12/09/2005 16:42: WSLam Wrote: I have personally tried many transports vs the SB2. Honestly i think if the RIP are perfect, there should be NO difference. The perfect transport is to deliver the bits accurately. And once you are there, you can't go 'beyond' that.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A real commitment to SB: sold my CD12

2005-09-13 Thread PhilNYC
WSLam Wrote: > I believe Sean has already provided very strong data on the SB2 jitter. Yeah, I saw his post on the data...I believe that compared to the performance of transports from dCS and the reclocking mechanism in the Dodson, the SB2 has about 10x more jitter...still an incredibly good per

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A real commitment to SB: sold my CD12

2005-09-13 Thread WSLam
I believe Sean has already provided very strong data on the SB2 jitter. I do have a Big Ben, but I dont necessarily find the sound better with it in the audio chain. ws PhilNYC Wrote: > Obviously, this is one of those topics that always stirs up some > controversy...but I am one of those guys w

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dropouts ruining my Squeezebox dream

2005-09-13 Thread bec143
I'll check out what's happening in the buffer duringthe dropouts tonight. -- bec143 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread MarcBernard
Yes, I saw the product info describing the output drive into a 75 ohm load. But the real question is...is the SB2 properly backmatched with a 75 ohm impedance to absorb the reflected wave from the load? If the SB2 output impedance is small, say 25 ohms like a typical CMOS driver, then the actual d

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread slimpy
the product info page (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_specs.html) says the following about the coax out: Coax connector: RCA, 500mVpp into 75 ohms s. -- slimpy ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dropouts ruining my Squeezebox dream

2005-09-13 Thread MrC
bludragon Wrote: > Are you saying it would put packets that have crc error'd into the > buffer? Would it not drop them before that? No, not at all. I realize now my analogy was flawed. My point was that the problems are occurring in the transport, not in the buffer or player. If the buffer ha

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RCA Digital Output Stage Impedance

2005-09-13 Thread Mike Hanson
S/PDIF is supposed to be on coaxial 75-ohm cable, connectors, etc. Therefore, I would start with the assumption that the output stage on the SB2 is also 75-ohm. BTW, RCA connectors can never truly be 75-ohm, by their very nature. The proper connector is BNC, but market pressures have caused RCA

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dropouts ruining my Squeezebox dream

2005-09-13 Thread abdomen
I don't believe it will help him much to watch the buffer screensaver, because he can hear dropouts when the buffer empties. -- abdomen ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dropouts ruining my Squeezebox dream

2005-09-13 Thread mwpmo
I think the network card in SB2 (ehternet or wlan) will just drop all packets with error directly and ask the server to resend, without putting these data to the buffer. -- mwpmo ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://li

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dropouts ruining my Squeezebox dream

2005-09-13 Thread bludragon
Are you saying it would put packets that have crc error'd into the buffer? Would it not drop them before that? -- bludragon ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles