Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blown away by Transporter

2007-03-30 Thread P Floding
evert;191216 Wrote: (from another note from me on this Forum) Just got mine today. Hooked up and I am amazed by the quality. Compared to what came from my Denon player using the DAC in my HK AVR 8500 (and that's a good DAC), the Transporter is impressively better. It even outperforms my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's better?

2007-03-30 Thread P Floding
325xi;190301 Wrote: It worth noticing that here lays the major difference between tcp/ip audio data transfer SB implements, and isochronous USB used by USB DACs. TCP/IP is asynchronous, so the very word jitter isn't applicable to a path between a computer and SB, appears only in between SB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread P Floding
Ben Diss;191022 Wrote: Thinking about this some more I wondered if the RF interference might be a problem for some systems and not for others. I run balanced from the DAC to the preamp to the amp. Maybe my system is immune? -Ben This is most likely the case. Seems, for exmple, that TacT

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blown away by Transporter

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Erskine
TiredLegs;184412 Wrote: I just set the Random Album function with the SlimServer Plug-In to pick what to listen to for me, then I don't have to struggle with choosing. I find that because it is unbiased, it pulls up albums that I might not have chosen myself, but that I'm glad to hear. It's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sub for Quad ESL 988

2007-03-30 Thread opaqueice
Skunk;191180 Wrote: Again, not trying to insist I'm right on this, but even creative part says: The ribbon is only moving very slightly. So, it can respond very quickly to a signal. So what is this effect that causes opposite results in large ribbons versus large woofers? Yeah, I share

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sub for Quad ESL 988

2007-03-30 Thread Skunk
opaqueice;191316 Wrote: First of all, both will oscillate at exactly the same frequency, so neither of them returns to rest sooner than the other - that would be impossible. Well a speaker is going to be perceived as fast with program material, not test tones. Consider sequential

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sub for Quad ESL 988

2007-03-30 Thread opaqueice
Skunk;191320 Wrote: Well a speaker is going to be perceived as fast with program material, not test tones. Consider sequential cannon blasts in the program, and the ability to hear the black background between them. We discuss pure tones because any sound - including cannon blasts - can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?

2007-03-30 Thread Mark Lanctot
evert;191230 Wrote: No, sorry, the direct connection is in use - by the SACD / DVD-A player... The AVR is however using the signal as is, nothing done by the DSP, no settings, tweaks. At least on the receivers I've had, direct was a mode rather than an input and could be applied to any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread jeffmeh
P Floding;191291 Wrote: This is most likely the case. Seems, for exmple, that TacT RCS equipment is generally sensitive to EMF noise issues. Potentially any type of equipment can be sensitive however. Let's just stress that a negative AB or ABX means very little. Certainly proves nothing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweaks that really work

2007-03-30 Thread nicketynick
Skunk;191313 Wrote: Tomtjx and I are going to make a remote controlled version; think AI robots with speakers for heads and RTA ears. They will also accommodate you in blind testing, by switching component settings on command or sneakily. Now that you've brought this up again. I've

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
jeffmeh wrote: P Floding;191291 Wrote: Let's just stress that a negative AB or ABX means very little. Certainly proves nothing in the general sense. Agreed, but let's also stipulate that it does prove that the SPECIFIC subject of the test CURRENTLY cannot discern an audible difference.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread jeffmeh
Pat Farrell;191340 Wrote: jeffmeh wrote: P Floding;191291 Wrote: Let's just stress that a negative AB or ABX means very little. Certainly proves nothing in the general sense. Agreed, but let's also stipulate that it does prove that the SPECIFIC subject of the test CURRENTLY

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sub for Quad ESL 988

2007-03-30 Thread rbl
darkglobe - thanks very much for your help. Unfortunately the 989/2905 are just too big. I called Gradient in finland and they told me they don't sell anything for the Qauds anymore. Do yo have any experience / knowledge of the Velodyne DD-12? Regarding the FASTness. I reiterate what i said

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread opaqueice
jeffmeh;191342 Wrote: Is that not the gist of what I said? All a negative test indicates is that the subject could not discern an audible difference in that test. To make a broader general conclusion would be incorrect, but to dismiss this outcome as meaningless would also be incorrect.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweaks that really work

2007-03-30 Thread tomjtx
I say put your speakers on swivel chairs/casters until you find the perfect place in your room. Tomtjx and I are going to make a remote controlled version; think AI robots with speakers for heads and RTA ears. They will also accommodate you in blind testing, by switching component settings on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?

2007-03-30 Thread gregeas
cliveb;190796 Wrote: You can do this, by editing the strings subroutine in server/plugins/digitalinput/plugin.pm Cliveb: Thanks for the tip. I edited the plugin and changed the input labels. Now I need to get them to the root level, or somehow delete the unused options. -- gregeas

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
jeffmeh wrote: Is that not the gist of what I said? All a negative test indicates is that the subject could not discern an audible difference in that test. To make a broader general conclusion would be incorrect, but to dismiss this outcome as meaningless would also be incorrect. Yes, of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
opaqueice wrote: beyond any doubt. That's just the way it goes - most people get past the stage of demanding absolute proof at a pretty young age - or become mathematicians :-). Perhaps that is why I switched from Engineering to Mathematics as a senior in undergraduate school. Of course,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweaks that really work

2007-03-30 Thread Anne
I guess the blind guy for testing comes free of charge ? -- Anne Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33956

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread P Floding
Pat Farrell;191340 Wrote: jeffmeh wrote: P Floding;191291 Wrote: Let's just stress that a negative AB or ABX means very little. Certainly proves nothing in the general sense. Agreed, but let's also stipulate that it does prove that the SPECIFIC subject of the test CURRENTLY cannot

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweaks that really work

2007-03-30 Thread P Floding
Anne;191395 Wrote: I guess the blind guy for testing comes free of charge ? I tend to do that. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
P Floding wrote: However, it is meaningless given that we do not have the perfect system to test components in. I.e your null hypotheses is incomplete. If your null hypothesis is badly written, you are totally correct the whole expensive process proves nothing. But you don't have to have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] sub for Quad ESL 988

2007-03-30 Thread sc53
What about one of the Martin Logan subs? They seem to be designed to be fast to keep up with ML panels. I've only heard one with ML's and the blend sounded terrific. -- sc53 sc53's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply? 800 mA vs 1000 mA?

2007-03-30 Thread creativepart
I started looking around my junk drawer at the various power supplies I had, thinking I may luck out with a PS for my SB3. To my surprise I found a AD-5800RDU power supply from one of my old ethernet hubs. I looked it up online and it turns out to be a linear, regulated, 5v power supply rated at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply? 800 mA vs 1000 mA?

2007-03-30 Thread seanadams
1A is not enough. It might work, but you risk burning out your power supply. Also when measuring a switcher you generally need to have some load on it. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply? 800 mA vs 1000 mA?

2007-03-30 Thread creativepart
Hi Sean, wow, straight from the horses mouth... so to speak. Thanks for that. I notice that the PS is a tad warm. But not really any warmer than the stock one. It does have air holes. Thanks for a great product!! And for your help, too. Paul Green PS. I can't wait for that $995 in between

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
jeffmeh wrote: Ah, I must have misinterpreted your tone. My apologies. No problem, accepted, etc. Tone is one of the hard things to convey in email/usenet Solve that one, and you'll get rich -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's better?

2007-03-30 Thread JohnSwenson
Since you guys brought it up, here is a little primer on USB audio. All modes in the official USB audio spec use isochronous transfer, this means the host is sending out packets to match a particular transfer rate (44.1 48 etc), this bandwidth is reserved on the bus. There is no handshake per

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-30 Thread snoogly
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-30 Thread tyler_durden
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