Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread seanadams
haunyack;214814 Wrote: Funny though...even the Slim people were involved in the flamewar. It may have become an embarrassment to daddy Logitech. . Sigh... here we go with the evil corporate overlords again. I deleted it because several users asked me to. Aside from spam, that is the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Superclock4

2007-07-16 Thread greg_f
Thanks again Gary. -- greg_f greg_f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36801 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-16 Thread darrenyeats
amey01;214807 Wrote: I just find this very interesting! snip My bet (guess) would be that if you played a live band through an ADC then DAC and piped them directly into the speakers it would still sound live. Clearly - something is going on here that we don't understand. amey01, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread tomjtx
Sean, Is there a possibility of restoring the deleted thread as a locked sticky? There was some valuable info re. the design care that went into Transporter and some cogent debunking of mods that were interesting. -- tomjtx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread nelamvr6
You have you grills on your speakers? While you're listening? -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
haunyack;214845 Wrote: Dimples on a golf ball are symmetrical, therefore the effect of air pressure is predictable. If one could predict the effects of random occurrence (grime on a car finish, for example), that person could play the lotto and win every time. Random occurrence is the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
tomjtx;214897 Wrote: Sean, Is there a possibility of restoring the deleted thread as a locked sticky? There was some valuable info re. the design care that went into Transporter and some cogent debunking of mods that were interesting. I second that, although it doesn't matter to me if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread Ben Diss
opaqueice;214902 Wrote: It's not about prediction - despite the symmetry, even golf ball dimples are designed mostly by trial and error. It may be counterintutive, but Tyler is right. Rough surfaces create a layer of turbulent air around the object, and that often lowers the overall drag

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
Ben Diss;214906 Wrote: Sorry, guys. I gotta call a BS on this. A rough surface increases drag. Dimples and other effects that control vortices can improve performance by managing air separation over the surface. On airplanes, we use vortex generators to do this. Dirt on a car or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread tyler_durden
Now THIS is a thread! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread Ben Diss
opaqueice;214909 Wrote: Rough surfaces increase drag *at the surface*, but they also can create a turbulent layer of air at relatively low speeds. The main flow slipping around that layer can then remain laminar for longer and close in more tightly behind the object, which sometimes means

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
Ben Diss;214947 Wrote: Controlling turbulence at the boundary layer may allow the flow to remain attached longer, but it will not cause it to be a laminar flow and it will not reduce overall drag. For example, adding vortex generators to an airplane will aid in control as the airflow

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread haunyack
nelamvr6;214901 Wrote: You have you grills on your speakers? While you're listening? Well yes, the grills stay on as they are virtually permanent. My speakers are the Vandersteen 3a Signature and according to Richard, the grill clothe is integral to the design. Removal requires partial

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread haunyack
seanadams;214850 Wrote: Sigh... here we go with the evil corporate overlords again. I deleted it because several users asked me to. Aside from spam, that is the only reason I have ever deleted anything. I'm not a consiracy theorist and therefore could have been a bit more thoughtful with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread nicketynick
Yay for Google cache, if you're interested try this: mods for Transporter page x Can't users delete their own posts if they feel they've behaved badly, rather than ask for the whole thread to be deleted? -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread nicketynick
Note to self: Don't make any 'rocket scientist' jokes around here, you're likely to upset a few people. Geez, what a crowd! -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread seanadams
I'll do whatever you all want with it: a) resurrect b) resurrect and lock c) leave deleted -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread Anne
Well, I vacuum my electrostatics every week, this way they stay like new, the panels dont accumulate dust and loose conductivity prematurely. -- Anne Squeezebox 3 Stereovox XV2 Bryston B100-DA SST Martin Logan Aeon I Sennheiser HD580 Precision

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
nicketynick;214980 Wrote: Note to self: Don't make any 'rocket scientist' jokes around here, you're likely to upset a few people. Geez, what a crowd! My all-time favorite Onion headline: Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not Exactly A Rocket Scientist -- opaqueice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread haunyack
seanadams;214985 Wrote: I'll do whatever you all want with it: a) resurrect b) resurrect and lock c) leave deleted Maybe a forum wide vote is in order here. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread AndyC_772
Personally I think it best that a thread which suggests disconnecting the safety earth from equipment in the quest for better sound stays deleted. Darwinian evolution and lawyers don't mix :( -- AndyC_772 AndyC_772's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread Pat Farrell
seanadams wrote: I'll do whatever you all want with it: a) resurrect b) resurrect and lock c) leave deleted My vote is to leave it deleted. Perhaps it can serve as an example of where flaming goes, you lose the good parts as well. -- Pat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?

2007-07-16 Thread Phil Leigh
You might also want to consider the fact that a lot of bands use digital desk these days for their live mix - so you are hearing the sound through adc/dac's anyway... :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread ceejay
jaysung;214795 Wrote: I presume that your mainboard and the SB alike have optical digital outputs. So there should not be any electrical influence ones the signal has passed the optoelectrical converter... Not so... the optical digital outputs are directly driven by electrical-to-optical

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread tomjtx
Resurrect and locked -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36826 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread JimC
Pat Farrell;215009 Wrote: seanadams wrote: I'll do whatever you all want with it: a) resurrect b) resurrect and lock c) leave deleted My vote is to leave it deleted. Perhaps it can serve as an example of where flaming goes, you lose the good parts as well. Which is *exactly* why

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread Patrick Dixon
Not bothered what you do with the thread in question, but Sean, since you apparently have 'The Power', is there any chance you could restore the 'Building a quiet Mini-ITX Server with ClarkConnect' thread in the DIY section, which seemed to disappear into a worm-hole in space around the time

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread seanadams
Patrick Dixon;215037 Wrote: Not bothered what you do with the thread in question, but Sean, since you apparently have 'The Power', is there any chance you could restore the 'Building a quiet Mini-ITX Server with ClarkConnect' thread in the DIY section, which seemed to disappear into a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread muski
Another issue is what the software player and PC sound apps drivers might be doing to the playback stream along the way. It's been a while since I played with Softsqueeze, but when I tried it a few years ago I was not getting bit-perfect playback (tested by playing a 5.1 DTS file into a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread johann
Pat Farrell;215009 Wrote: seanadams wrote: I'll do whatever you all want with it: a) resurrect b) resurrect and lock c) leave deleted My vote is to leave it deleted. Perhaps it can serve as an example of where flaming goes, you lose the good parts as well. -- Pat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread Patrick Dixon
seanadams;215048 Wrote: I can't find it, but mherger found the content of it and linked to it in the subsequent thread. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36430highlight=clarkconnect Ahh, you're not quite as powerful as I thought ... maybe JimC (aka Daddy) can do it ;-) Thanks

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread JimC
slimkid;215056 Wrote: Having spent good part of my youth days fighting the dictatorship, I can appreciate your vote. However, I'm disgusted with your reasoning. Also, sounds rather pathetic that somebody who calls himself 'Logitech director of marketing' would try to shout my mouth or to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread opaqueice
I agree that the thread got quite out of hand, although it seemed to me that it was largely because of one poster. To me, the best way to deal with that is either to discipline that particular poster in one way or another, or to simply lock the thread and let it slide gracefully off into the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread tomjtx
I would second Opaqueice on that. After all, if some found the thread objectionable can't they simply not follow it? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread Pat Farrell
tomjtx wrote: After all, if some found the thread objectionable can't they simply not follow it? Not if you subscribe to the topics as email. Some people like web forums, others greatly prefer the speed of reading locally, whether it is usenet or email. Kinda like tubes versus solid state

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread adamslim
JimC;215064 Wrote: Great big long sanctimonious post Next time try humour ;) Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread tomjtx
JimC, I think deleting a thread is also censorship on a macro rather than micro level. If one defines censorship as the restriction of the free flow of information then thread deletion would fit into that category. -- tomjtx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amiga 500 power supply for SB3 - good idea?

2007-07-16 Thread sbn
In reply to all the people in this thread who suggests me to just try it: There's a reason why I asked. I wanted to know if anybody was familiar with this particular Amiga 500 power supply, and i wanted to hear about their experiences, before cutting off the original A500 power connector and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread haunyack
JimC;215064 Wrote: I've raised three children. I know childish behavior. -= Jim Spoken like a true authoritarian. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread CPC
Mr.Adams- Thanks for the opportunity to vote. b)resurrect and lock. -- CPC CPC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36826

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?

2007-07-16 Thread JohnSwenson
Most of the built in sound on motherboards use an AC97 codec which is fixed to 48KHz sample rate. Thus if you are playing 44.1 data its going to be resampled by the software on the PC. So no it won't be bit perfect. I've measured the jitter (actually taken the spectrum on the clock) on several

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread JJZolx
resurrect and lock -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36826

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread Club1820
When is the last time you vacuumed? Must have been awhile? -- Club1820 Club1820's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36854

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Mods

2007-07-16 Thread seanadams
JimC;215015 Wrote: It appears to me to be like parenting children: only by making the consequences clear does the lesson stick. OK, I vote we send everybody out back to pick their own switch. -- seanadams seanadams's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-07-16 Thread Club1820
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweak

2007-07-16 Thread tyler_durden
haunyack;214971 Wrote: As for laminar flow, it applies to an object moving through space, in this case I would say that space (sound waves) are moving through an object (grill clothe) Flow or an object moving through a fluid is not the same a waves moving around an object. TD --