Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread Phil Leigh
The noise floor of a recording is going to be determined ultimately by the microphones used to make it - and most typical professional studio mics struggle to attain a s/n ratio of 80dB... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-27 Thread Fifer
Like Pat, I've been using the beta controller for months with my Transporter. It works fine and just keeps getting better. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread mr_bill
So what's the verdict here? It seems to get more confusing all the time. 1. Transporter straight into amps? 2. Transporter into Endler Attenuators? 3. Transporter into higher quality preamp with Transporter set to fixed output? (all xlr if possible) Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread Phil Leigh
Before spending any money, why don't you just try TP-Amp via XLR and use the volume control on the TP? I doubt you'll be unhappy. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread Timothy Stockman
Phil Leigh;262925 Wrote: The noise floor of a recording is going to be determined ultimately by the microphones used to make it - and most typical professional studio mics struggle to attain a s/n ratio of 80dB... As well as the ambient noise in the recording venue. For clasical recording

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread mr_bill
Phil Leigh;262999 Wrote: Before spending any money, why don't you just try TP-Amp via XLR and use the volume control on the TP? I doubt you'll be unhappy. That's what I'm doing now - but it gets pretty loud at -20 to -25db on the volume scale. That's what is prompting my concern. Am I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread xand1x
mr_bill;263006 Wrote: That's what I'm doing now - but it gets pretty loud at -20 to -25db on the volume scale. That's what is prompting my concern. Am I losing too much resolution with my scenario? I should have posted that originally. Thanks, Bill I'm in the exact same scenario you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread mr_bill
xand1x;263020 Wrote: I'm in the exact same scenario you are in mr_bill. I have Endler's on order and hopefully they'll arrive soon. As soon as I get them i'll let you know if there is an audible difference between using the digital volume control in the upper vs lower registers. I'm sure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread opaqueice
Phil Leigh;262925 Wrote: The noise floor of a recording is going to be determined ultimately by the microphones used to make it - and most typical professional studio mics struggle to attain a s/n ratio of 80dB... In the recent comparison between 44.1/16 and SACD, the researchers found that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread bigfool1956
Roy Gregory reviewed the unbalanced Rothwell attentuators in HiFi+, and found them to be excellent. The balanced ones cost GBP 69, which is about $140 dollars I guess. Shop here: http://www.rothwellaudioproducts.co.uk/erol.html -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread Skunk
mr_bill;262997 Wrote: I am using Transporter direct to amp with digital volume control - but it gets pretty loud at -20 to -25db on the volume scale. That's what is prompting my concern. Am I losing too much resolution with my scenario? Even if you're not losing resolution or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-27 Thread kimballhouse
Thanks for your responses. An education. -- kimballhouse kimballhouse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42761

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 worthwhile for this system?

2008-01-27 Thread kimballhouse
Colleagues, I'd like your opinion on whether the Transporter would be worthwhile for my 2 channel system, or whether I should experiment with the SB3. I have a modified Cary SLC-50B tube preamp and a Cary CAD-808 (Rocket-88) running in triode mode with QED Silver Anniversary biwire cables and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 worthwhile for this system?

2008-01-27 Thread crooner
kimballhouse;263064 Wrote: Colleagues, I'd like your opinion on whether the Transporter would be worthwhile for my 2 channel system, or whether I should experiment with the SB3. I have a modified Cary SLC-50B tube preamp and a Cary CAD-808 (Rocket-88) running in triode mode with QED

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..

2008-01-27 Thread audioengr
crooner;182708 Wrote: Now... Looking at the innards of my DAC-60 while upgrading the tubes, I really don't know why people are modding the heck out of them. It comes with top quality parts already! All the stock electrolytics are audio/audiophile quality. There are tons of Elna Silmic's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality

2008-01-27 Thread audioengr
Timothy Stockman;261847 Wrote: How would an -external- clock device give lower jitter (and thus possible audible improvement) compared to an internal clock source? You might be able to get better -long term- stability from an exotic clock generator, but a decent crystal oscillator in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 worthwhile for this system?

2008-01-27 Thread adamslim
I've little doubt your system is good enough to merit a Transporter, but why not start off with a SB3 and see if you like it all? Trust me, if you decide to get a TP later you'll find somewhere to use the SB3 - very nice in a kitchen system :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] OT - $1000 budget for loudspeakers

2008-01-27 Thread haraldo
Although I really like the Vienna speakers (ref the lust object speakers...) First order X-overs is what it must be. First order X-overs are the only analog way of preserving the sound waves. Is that audible, YES !!! How can you say that a speaker that has a 360 degree phaseshift at the X-over

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..

2008-01-27 Thread crooner
audioengr;263081 Wrote: There are much better caps available. These are only the widely-used caps, not the best. Steve N. The best electrolytic is the fabled Rubycon BlackGate (I use the NX version in my modded EAD DSP-7000 III), now unfortunately discontinued. The ELNA Cerafine (also

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)

2008-01-27 Thread Ron Stewart
I've owned an SB3 for about six months, and I think it's a great piece of equipment and a terrific value. I also think it (via its analog outputs) sounds quite good (especially given its low cost), but not as good as good as my Rega Planet CD player. I haven't performed any blind comparisons, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 worthwhile for this system?

2008-01-27 Thread GuyDebord
I would suggest otherwise. Get the Transporter! your system will thank you. Sell your Planet, and get ready for the next upgrade, because the TP will make you rebuild your system around it. If you can, invest on something that will satisfyingly stay in your system for a while. Good luck --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-27 Thread DCtoDaylight
Any of you Beta testers using iTunes? I'm curious, because I just started downloading album artwork, and would like to know if it works with the squeezebox controller and squeezecenter. I'd hate to do a lot of work setting up the iTunes artwork files only to find they don't work with the new

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter paired with Squeezebox Controller

2008-01-27 Thread radish
If it shows up on the web interface it will show up on the controller, if not, it won't. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Attenuators-recommendations

2008-01-27 Thread NewBuyer
bigfool1956;263032 Wrote: Roy Gregory reviewed the unbalanced Rothwell attentuators in HiFi+...[/url] The Endlers sound very significantly better than the Rothwells. Tried them both, and the difference is huge. -- NewBuyer

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-27 Thread wyrob1
My SB3 setup is giving me plenty of enjoyment, but time for a speaker upgrade. My current Monitor Audio S10s are OK but cannot keep up with my new amps (Murano Audio IcePower based P-500S [EMAIL PROTECTED]#937;), show full benefit of the DAC1 clarity, nor fill our large listening space. Some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.

2008-01-27 Thread zanash
an off the wall solution [and not one that your asking ] would be to swap dac's In a recent one on one the benchmark dac1 [mk1?] faired very poorly against a unit 1/10th its cost. It may well be worth your while auditioning better dac's first as it just would be a waste of money to partner this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)

2008-01-27 Thread zanash
blind listening tests are as you have discovered very hard work to the point that the music becomes secondary imo. All the DBT's I've been involved with failed because of this even the most obvious test a portable cdp against a high end unit was not conclusive in the statistical results.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..

2008-01-27 Thread zanash
In my experience the black gates though good never gave there best ...they always seemed to be running in ie if you switch the unit off for any period, on start up it would take some time days to get the sound back. I've found nothing better than paper in oils for this position ..yes there big

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..

2008-01-27 Thread crooner
zanash;263247 Wrote: In my experience the black gates though good never gave there best ...they always seemed to be running in ie if you switch the unit off for any period, on start up it would take some time days to get the sound back. I've found nothing better than paper in oils for