Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread zanash
definitely the pot calling the kettle black ! hope you can see the lack of validity of your comments. maybe you could enlighten us to which cable you refer to, we may then be able to see where your coming from. I have no objection to people with a contrary view ...life would be very dull if we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread haunyack
opaqueice;275813 Wrote: > There is no "if". You can buy cables for a few dollars which will > perform as well or better than any audiophile cable, no matter how > expensive. > > > > Sometimes the truth hurts. It's not my fault the debate has gotten > politicized - it's the fault of those sel

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread opaqueice
Robin Bowes;275514 Wrote: > > If, if, if ... There is no "if" (except maybe in your head). You can buy cables for a few dollars which will perform as well or better as any audiophile cable, no matter how expensive. > No, the real problem is that you consistently post highly polarised > opini

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Hmmm...well, all I can say after an evening of listening to the decoded files is - they sound stellar. I love "Wrecking Ball", but it always seemed too overwhelmed by muddy bass. The decoded files restore the leading edge of the bass notes, putting them in a more balanced perspective and making

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: Bolder Cable Modified Elpac Power Supply for SB

2008-03-05 Thread dagordon
OK, $70. That's less than half of what it would cost new. -- dagordon dagordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6804 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44036 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Timothy Stockman
Pale Blue Ego;275677 Wrote: > I know the resulting file isn't true 24-bit, but it *is* a > properly-decoded HDCD wav I'm not sure we can be sure that it's "properly decoded", since the HDCD specs are "secret". As I understand it, hdcd.exe was reverse engineered without a real specification in ha

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Wombat
Timothy Stockman;275660 Wrote: > To further add to my previous post, IMHO effect of the "peak extend" > mode of HDCD is rather subtle. I'm not sure I could reliably detect > decoded vs non-decoded on most material in a level-matched blind test. You can try this sample i offer here: http://www.h

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread Pat Farrell
Timothy Stockman wrote: > That's the whole point of this thread. If you listened to a > system and did not otherwise know whether the speakers were connected > with audiophile cable or coathangers, would your ears alone reliably > tell you? And related to this is the widely reported study that w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Yes, I'm using ReplayGain. I'm also using a higher FLAC compression level that the one used a few years ago on the original rips. And Robin, I know the resulting file isn't true 24-bit, but it *is* a properly-decoded HDCD wav, which does sound better than the non-decoded wav. Since the SB3 does

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread Timothy Stockman
GuyDebord;275299 Wrote: > your argument is like measurement data, irrelevant to my ears But, price may be be relevant to your ears. (At least, if you know the price.) That's the whole point of this thread. If you listened to a system and did not otherwise know whether the speakers were connect

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Timothy Stockman
To further add to my previous post, IMHO effect of the "peak extend" mode of HDCD is rather subtle. I'm not sure I could reliably detect decoded vs non-decoded on most material in a level-matched blind test. OTOH, the 6 dB gain reduction is not subtle. IMHO, ReplayGain is almost mandatory for p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread m1abrams
marlowe;275608 Wrote: > So at a show they served the same beer in differently labelled bottles > and asked the tasters which they preferred. The label did make a > difference) Let me guess one bottle had a picture of rolling fields and the other had barely dressed sexy woman on it. I can tell y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Timothy Stockman
Robin Bowes;275629 Wrote: > Pale Blue Ego wrote: > > Just ran across this thread... > > > > The hdcd.exe program works great! I tried it on Emmylou's "Wrecking > > Ball". The resulting 24-bit FLACs sound fantastic and are only > > slightly larger than the original 16-bit FLACs. > > which

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Robin Bowes
Pale Blue Ego wrote: > Just ran across this thread... > > The hdcd.exe program works great! I tried it on Emmylou's "Wrecking > Ball". The resulting 24-bit FLACs sound fantastic and are only > slightly larger than the original 16-bit FLACs. ... which suggests they're 16-bit 8-bits of zero paddi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread marlowe
I too think Rodney may have a point. I resently read, that a study had been conducted where a brain scan was made during wine tasting. When the subjects were told, that the wine was expensive, the center in the brain related "enjoyment" (pardon my limited vocabulary) showed more activity, than whe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2008-03-05 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Just ran across this thread... The hdcd.exe program works great! I tried it on Emmylou's "Wrecking Ball". The resulting 24-bit FLACs sound fantastic and are only slightly larger than the original 16-bit FLACs. Now off to convert all my Joni Mitchell remasters and the rare HDCD test pressing of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread mlsstl
I'd highly recommend a book I'm reading right now. It is "Musicophelia" by Dr. Oliver Sacks. It is a fascinating look at the way the brain hears and processes music. Though little to none of the book is directly concerned with audiophile issues, much of what is discussed can be applied to the hobb

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread darrenyeats
Rodney, that is an interesting point. Since I "saw the light" about the placebo effect and blind listening I've really enjoyed what I've got a lot more. If the mind can play tricks, then having correct information about real audible differences can play 'fact-based tricks' too. The knowledge tha

Re: A Cut-Rate Audiophile�s Experience With a Linear Power Supply

2008-03-05 Thread NoFlyZone
I have the Welborne supply. I have a wife who is very acceptable to A-B'ing as well as my 90 YO Dad who follows this hobby of ours. It's amazing how good his hearing is! On with the Welborne PS. A-Bing the Welborne we heard no discernible difference. At first we thought we heard a change in sm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread Rodney_Gold
Does a cup of tea change if served in a glass or a bone china cup , most connoisseurs will agree , the tea tastes better in the china cup. Audio cables and other devices might be snakeoil or might not , however if folk believe that an expensive cable sounds better , it actually does to themm , as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!

2008-03-05 Thread Robin Bowes
opaqueice wrote: > Robin Bowes;275248 Wrote: >> The point is that not all cables/amps *do* meet those basic performance >> >> requirements, so the conditional clause in your statement is highly >> significant. It is therefore meaningless, and verging on ridiculous to >> make such statements maki

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??

2008-03-05 Thread Rodney_Gold
I actually run 3 simultaneous systems off a transporter and one off a SB. I have gone both active and "passive". 2 of the systems are digital active , ie take a digital input. A set of meridian DSP 5500's as the main system off the SB3 with a z-sys RDP-1 digital parametric between the 2 units. Th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter rca spdif digital input problem - no music

2008-03-05 Thread Dogmiester
I am experiencing exactly the same thing. -- Dogmiester Dogmiester's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43855 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??

2008-03-05 Thread adamslim
Squeeze Me;275284 Wrote: > Just oe question, what exactly do you mean when you say it is > straightforward to mess up an active system. Surely you just plug in > your source (Squeezebox) and are good to go? Sorry I meant from a design perspective - just because you have the theoretical improveme

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear PSU in stock at Farnell (UK)

2008-03-05 Thread morris_minor
ModelCitizen;275388 Wrote: > My Farnell PSU gave up the ghost after about a year too. I replaced it > with a Transporter. :-) > > MC I must try that one on 'er indoors! -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://for