opaqueice;291074 Wrote:
I've seen my share of ansurd audio systems, but this one takes the cake.
No, that's too mild: it utterly obliterates them all.
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10834
I'm very sure the owner doesn't care what you or anyone else on
pski;292249 Wrote:
The benefit of bi-amping is derived from the fact that each amplifier
has a fixed range to reproduce.
Not so. Each amplifier produces the full range, and the (passive)
crossover and driver do the filtering.
pski;292249 Wrote:
... you might want to check the local tech
I have changed my system over the past few months ,going from a
Tri-Aktive Linn Kaber setup.
things are a lot simpler here now,i have one amplifier (Linn Akurate
C4200); and a pair of Totem Forests. removing the linking straps i
bi-wire/amp and it's sounding very good.
the Chakra amp runs
Phil Leigh;292171 Wrote:
surely the speaker is wired in parallel across the amp output?
Maybe this diagram will help:
[image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Source_and_load_circuit_Z.png]
Z_S is the output impedance of the amplifier. Setting Z_S to zero
doesn't cause
Wireless, I did not use the built-in attenuators in the TP, because I am
running balanced ics and the built-in attenuators only work w/RCA.
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Well, I am the one who suggested bi-amping to Sadiekate, and there is no
way I can translate all this for her, and the discussions following her
original post have totally confused me.
Here's my setup.
I have 2 NAD C370 amps and a pair of BW 602 speaker, with the little
metal jumpers removed
I tried connecting the optical out on my PS3 to the optical in on the
Transporter.
The TP is connected to my integrated amp through a pair of unbalanced
RCA connectors.
On the TP I scrolled down to Digital Inputs, selected the SPDIF input
and press play. I then booted up my PS3 and changed the
pski;292249 Wrote:
This is malarky. Again physics is the issue. The benefit of bi-amping is
derived from the fact that each amplifier has a fixed range to
reproduce. The net effect is a result of Ohm's law. Unlike evolution,
this is not a theory.
This is incorrect. Each amplifier supplies a
Something else that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet, is that
with bi-amping, each amp drives a simpler crossover circuit. Presumably
this provides a simpler load than the full crossover.
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Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more
annz;292453 Wrote:
Is the setup I am using considered passive bi-amping?
Yes - that is passive horizontal bi-amping.
Let me try to explain the discussion in simple terms.
In your case there is a kind of electronic filter (called a passive
crossover) inside the speakers, so between the
bigfool1956;292467 Wrote:
Something else that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet, is that
with bi-amping, each amp drives a simpler crossover circuit. Presumably
this provides a simpler load than the full crossover.
Yes, I think you're right. In principle this could improve
Be sure to set the PS3 output to two-channel PCM, not bitstream (Dolby
Digital, etc, which can't be decoded by the Transporter.
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opaqueice;292390 Wrote:
Maybe this diagram will help:
[image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Source_and_load_circuit_Z.png]
Z_S is the output impedance of the amplifier. Setting Z_S to zero
doesn't cause any problem - on the contrary, it's desirable (so long as
opaqueice;292476 Wrote:
Yes, I think you're right. In principle this could improve performance,
but I'm skeptical that it makes much difference unless the amps are
being driven very close to the edge of their capability.
I think it does make a difference because each amp sees a less
george_k;292491 Wrote:
Thanks for the reply gregeas,
Where on the PS3 can I find the setting for PCM/Bitstream? There is a
whole bunch of menus and sub-menus, I'm not sure where to look.
Also, did you notice a sound improvement by routing the sound through
the TP? Before I had it going
Not really worried about audio cd playback, all my cd's are sitting in a
storage closet somewhere.
I was more interested in whether or not the DAC on the TP would improve
DVD/Bluray playback on the PS3.
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opaqueice;292470 Wrote:
active means you have to plug it in
That is, plug it into a power source.
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bigfool1956;292467 Wrote:
Something else that hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet, is that
with bi-amping, each amp drives a simpler crossover circuit. Presumably
this provides a simpler load than the full crossover.
Indeed I mentioned this (or attempted to) in the first page of this
The Dynaudio system is awesome, I thought about getting it.
I also think the appearence and design is to die for.
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/multimedia/office.php
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Sennheiser HD580 Precision
Jazzyguy;289677 Wrote:
I have owned the SB3 now for a couple of years and won't get the Duet
until I know how the 2 compare in sound quality, being an Audiophile
and all.
I doubt any true audiophile would use either of the devices.
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Hi
There has been a page in the wiki for some time now entitled How To
Get the Best Audio Quality. Its VERY old - in fact it was this page
that inspired me to construct the Beginner's Guide, some time ago.
As part of the new wiki migration it now appears as
kazinvan;292564 Wrote:
I doubt any true audiophile would use either of the devices.
Pay attention, folks - a True Audiophile has kindly stooped down to
enlighten us.
What should we be using, oh master?
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opaqueice
opaqueice;292595 Wrote:
What should we be using, oh master?
Vinyl, obviously.
:-|
MC
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It's the music, stupid.
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opaqueice;292595 Wrote:
Pay attention, folks - a True Audiophile has kindly stooped down to
enlighten us.
What should we be using, oh master?
Oh ya, if the duet really is true 'audiophile' quality why do they make
a Transporter? The duet is a nice device, I have one and like it a lot.
I have to say that I personally use the balanced analog output of the
transporter to my pre/pro using the analog bypass. To say the
difference was dramatic would be an understatement. Just the ability
to use balanced analog outputs is worth the price of admission. I like
the fact that my D/A
kazinvan;292608 Wrote:
Oh ya, if the duet really is true 'audiophile' quality why do they make
a Transporter? The duet is a nice device, I have one and like it a
lot. It's good for what it does.
What digital source are you using that you think is better than the
Duet?
BTW- Has anyone
Do not feed the trolls.
kazinvan wrote:
then more cash on room treatments, cables, etc would your source be a
duet? Maybe, but I bet a lot of people who spend that kind of money
get high end CD players, good DACs, etc.
Go ahead, buy a $10,000 CD transport.
More than a few audiophiles had
So far I have been using v40 for about three weeks with no issues
listening to 88.2khz files including ones purchased from Linn and ones
I have created with Adobe Audition.
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jhm731;292306 Wrote:
I'm very sure the owner doesn't care what you or anyone else on this
forum thinks of his system.
I'm sure you're right!
I sent the link to some friends and their response was mostly This is
scary stuff.
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Clark Connect Linux file server-Various boxes with
I'm not a troll nor do I plan on spending that kind of money on a
transport. My point is that the duet is not the last word in audio.
The simple fact that people upgrade the SB's and send the signal to
external DACs essentially proves my point.
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kazinvan
So I ripped a number of 24/96 files including the HDAD (24/96 side, not
MLP 24/192 of ocurse) of Muddy Waters' Folk Singer and Cannonball
Adderley's Somethin' Else. They played fine on my Transporter in the
past (sounded great frankly), but I just tried them tonight and I get
nothing but loud
I happen to have the exact same albums, and Muddy is playing as I type
this, without any problems. The only difference, is that I've stored
this album as a wav file, rather than flac. SqueezeCenter
Transporter versions are the same though, and my file server is on XP
as well
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Anne;292537 Wrote:
The Dynaudio system is awesome, I thought about getting it.
I also think the appearence and design is to die for.
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/multimedia/office.php
A new verb:
Squeeze me but maybe we need a tagline wiki. What does each do? The
last element I recognize
kazinvan;292626 Wrote:
I'm not a troll nor do I plan on spending that kind of money on a
transport. My point is that the duet is not the last word in audio.
The simple fact that people upgrade the SB's and send the signal to
external DACs essentially proves my point.
Yeah, if a few people
Fixed. I thought I had saved my settings but didn't. I was encoding
FLAC to wav at the server and it didn't like this. Changed to FLAC -
FLAC, saved it this time, and all is music. Thx
Ted
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CPC;292618 Wrote:
BTW- Has anyone measured jitter on the Duet's digital output. IMO, it
sounds better than the SB3 digital out.
I thought so too, but the SB2/3 and SBR share the same circuitry in the
digital section, so the sound should be the same using digital outs of
both.
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Pale Blue
Here's a link to some extensive info on the advantages of bi-amping. He
states that you clearly do need to remove the passive crossover and use
an electronic crossover.
http://www.sound.westhost.com/bi-amp.htm
Jim
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Anne;292537 Wrote:
The Dynaudio system is awesome, I thought about getting it.
I also think the appearence and design is to die for.
http://www.dynaudio.com/eng/multimedia/office.php
Yea, that looks like a home version of their BM5 Compact studio
monitor. I need to start saving some
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