Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread stop-spinning
Mnyb;613207 Wrote: ...the Touch's spdif is one of the better you can get on the market regardless off price, the next day you need extensive mods ( that do nothing)... ...My Meridian DVD-A player, My SB3 and my Touch sound completely identical using digital outputs and thats the expected

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] here we go

2011-02-23 Thread Rodney_Gold
Sheets of rubber/high densityfoam/cork whatever. I assume the sub isn't downward firing... -- Rodney_Gold TP/Z-sys RDP1 digital Pre/Meridian DSP5500's Or TP/DSP5500's Touch/Emotiva X-DA1 dac/ATC SCM 50a's SB3/Meridian DSP5000's TP/ GerdDAC or various other DAC's/Woo Audio Wa2 Headphone

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread JezA
A cheap netbook and a v-link might be be a very acceptable solution for many people. You could use a player on the netbook to play directly; you could put a UPnP renderer on it and stream to it from a UPnP server; you could put Squeezeplay on it and turn it into a Touch replacement. Very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
JezA;613229 Wrote: Stop-spinning - a cheap netbook and a v-link might be be a very acceptable solution for many people. You could use a player on the netbook to play directly; you could put a UPnP renderer on it and stream to it from a UPnP server; you could put Squeezeplay on it and turn

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread chill
Phil Leigh;613231 Wrote: What if it transpired that the Touch+v-link+DAC sounded better than Touch+DAC? You can't assume it won't until its been tried... Ok, who are you and what have you done with the real Phil Leigh? :) Given that the v-link and the Touch both get their bits IN

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
chill;613245 Wrote: Ok, who are you and what have you done with the real Phil Leigh? :) Given that the v-link and the Touch both get their bits IN without jitter (the Touch via TCPIP and the v-link via asynch USB), it all boils down to which one ADDS the least jitter to the output SPDIF

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clock Injection, Sampling frequency recognition

2011-02-23 Thread omainik
Is there an easy way to recognize the sampling frequency of the played stream? I successfully implemented a Squeezebox Duet with clock injection from external DAC for 44.1 kHz Streams. The Clock is located at the DAC and the Squeezebox is synced to the external Clock. BCK and WS are generated

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clock Injection, Sampling frequency recognition

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
omainik;613254 Wrote: Is there an easy way to recognize the sampling frequency of the played stream? I successfully implemented a Squeezebox Duet with clock injection from external DAC for 44.1 kHz Streams. The Clock is located at the DAC and the Squeezebox is synced to the external

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-02-23 Thread brodeur
Phil Leigh;612966 Wrote: yes - you have got sox taking in an ogg file and outputting a flac file into INGUZ. You need sox to output a wav file not flac. [sox] -t ogg $FILE$ -t wav... It worked and not. If I test with a Ogg file it works. But I rely want to use it with Spotify live ogg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
brodeur;613258 Wrote: It worked and not. If I test with a Ogg file it works. But I rely want to use it with Spotify live ogg streams from the net (via the server). The pluging doesn´t kick in and whatever file setting I am using for ogg has no effect. It plays fine even with everything

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clock Injection, Sampling frequency recognition

2011-02-23 Thread omainik
Phil Leigh;613256 Wrote: Wouldn't it be a lot easier to simply have one clock frequency in the DAC and resample everything (say to 48k) via SOX?. I want to follow the multibit NOS approach with no data interaction. -- omainik

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Popping noises with Transporter firmware 81 and 85

2011-02-23 Thread garym
dizzysnakepilot;613200 Wrote: I have no idea what that is! Sounds painful. :) I was able to reencode one of the Koln flacs and now it will play. Weird. xlinx reset: remove power to transporter, point remote at transporter hold down the 1 key, while holding 1 key, restore power to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread JezA
If the Touch + v-link + DAC sounded better than the Touch + DAC then I would either a) get rid of my DAC, for it is not doing a very good job b) get rid of the Touch, for it is not doing a very good job If the v-link is so transformative, then why not just junk the Touch and use a cheap

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread stop-spinning
JezA;613278 Wrote: Or if you want a DAC with a dCS inspired wireless asynchronous USB input, why not just junk the Touch and get an Arcam rDAC? Actually I was considering the rDAC because I think that WIRELESS async USB is a fantastic concept and even ensures that there is total galvanic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
JezA;613278 Wrote: If the Touch + v-link + DAC sounded better than the Touch + DAC then I would either a) get rid of my DAC, for it is not doing a very good job b) get rid of the Touch, for it is not doing a very good job If the v-link is so transformative, then why not just junk the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread stop-spinning
Phil Leigh;613337 Wrote: I've heard the rDAC - wasn't particularly impressed TBH. Yes but this had me thinking... what's great conceptually about the rDAC is the use of KLEER wireless technology for wireless usb async. The big question is - can we also use this KLEER wireless technology

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread Phil Leigh
stop-spinning;613342 Wrote: Yes but this had me thinking... what's great conceptually about the rDAC is the use of KLEER wireless technology for wireless usb async. The big question is - can we also use this KLEER wireless technology between a PC and other USB DACs?? If so, that would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread JezA
The stand-out feature of the rDAC is their use under licence of dCS Asynchronous USB technology. If you add the KLEER wireless stuff on top of this it is a very clever product for the money. Most folk agree that asynchronous USB is the only way to make USB (half) decent; most folk would find

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread slackhead
Mnyb;613152 Wrote: But an USB to spdif converter seems utterly pointless when the Touch already has spdif out ? and a good one too ? Then this USB to SPDIF converter really have to produce an spdif out of extremely high standards. I do get why you want this from a laptop for example

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-02-23 Thread JohnSwenson
This is a very interesting topic, unfortunately its also fairly complicated. First I'll cover a few basics, then in subsequent posts cover some details. As has been mentioned before, as far as jitter goes whats really important is the jitter at the DAC chip itself. There are MANY different

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-02-23 Thread magiccarpetride
For me, it's Weather Report Mr. Gone. Sounds like a very lame diddling with MIDI. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-02-23 Thread darrenyeats
Probably Two Door Cinema Club's Tourist History. So compressed I have to drop the volume 20db to avoid bursting my drivers or ear drums. Awful. Still, it's catchy music. -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Worst sounding album in your collection

2011-02-23 Thread ronaldg
Cordell Jackson Live in Chicago Sounds like it was recorded on a 60's battery powered consumer mono 3 rtr with a ceramic mic. Music isn't so good either. -- ronaldg ronaldg's Profile: