Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread mhaas
Phil Leigh;616367 Wrote: OK - 79% of the speed of light then... Just for the sake of correct physics - Not electrons travel that fast in the circuit but the propagating ELMG field (signals) which moves them. Electrons in a conductor are actually quite slow. -- mhaas

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Phil Leigh
mhaas;616393 Wrote: Just for the sake of correct physics - Not electrons travel that fast in the circuit but the propagating ELMG field (signals) which moves them. Electrons in a conductor are actually quite slow. Yes I know :-) I was simply using shorthand... -- Phil Leigh You want to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Soulkeeper
While we're at the nitpicking, also remember that the electrons travel in the opposite direction than the electric current. :D -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread stop-spinning
OK thanks for all your lovely help in this thread - my (so far) preferred route for the ultimate transport solution (OK not ultimate but best value by far perhaps), goes like this: Dell Netbook 1018 USB 2.0 Isolater (to galvanically isolate the PC) V-Link Black Cat Veloce modified DPA Little

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread duke43j
JohnSwenson;616223 Wrote: Async USB does NOT use handshaking... Thanks, John for explaining that. I found the section in the USB spec that deals with async communications (not an easy section to understand). Does the Wavelength DAC require you to install special USB driver software in your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Phil Leigh
stop-spinning;616457 Wrote: OK thanks for all your lovely help in this thread - my (so far) preferred route for the ultimate transport solution (OK not ultimate but best value by far perhaps), goes like this: Dell Netbook 1018 USB 2.0 Isolater (to galvanically isolate the PC) V-Link

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Robin Bowes
On 08/03/11 16:59, Phil Leigh wrote: stop-spinning;616457 Wrote: I can't think of anything better especially when the formula can also be seen as: £200 £40 £100 £60 £100 to upgrade my DPA = quite cost effective for me and can scale well. versus Touch+modded DPA = 180+100? Strictly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread stop-spinning
Phil Leigh;616466 Wrote: versus Touch+modded DPA = 180+100? Phil, I figured that the clock in the Touch would not be as good as the clock in the V-Link from a dedicated audio company - so pulling the clock out to the V-Link (using async) seemed the best course of action. The netbook should be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Phil Leigh
Robin Bowes;616491 Wrote: On 08/03/11 16:59, Phil Leigh wrote: stop-spinning;616457 Wrote: I can't think of anything better especially when the formula can also be seen as: £200 £40 £100 £60 £100 to upgrade my DPA = quite cost effective for me and can scale well.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread Phil Leigh
stop-spinning;616528 Wrote: Phil, I figured that the clock in the Touch would not be as good as the clock in the V-Link from a dedicated audio company - so pulling the clock out to the V-Link (using async) seemed the best course of action. The netbook should be far more versatile and costs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Quality of digital outs from the Squeezebox

2011-03-08 Thread mlsstl
Robin Bowes;616491 Wrote: ...Still cheaper than stop-spinning's solution though (£200 + £180 + £100 £200 + £40 + £100 + £60 + £100) This is starting to sound like the routine at the end of the movie Clue where they try to count the number of gunshots fired. -- mlsstl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread brillo
I disagree. I think the Caiman's headphone section and amp are quite good. I've used it with AKG K702 and Sennheiser HD 650 headphones. -- brillo brillo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1601

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread brillo
magiccarpetride;616315 Wrote: Unfortunately, I think that Caiman is only good at one thing -- doing the Digital-to-Analog conversion. I'm singularly unimpressed by its headphone stage. I think you can get a much better sounding, dedicated headphone amp (but for mucho more bucks, of course).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread brillo
magiccarpetride;616315 Wrote: Unfortunately, I think that Caiman is only good at one thing -- doing the Digital-to-Analog conversion. I'm singularly unimpressed by its headphone stage. I think you can get a much better sounding, dedicated headphone amp (but for mucho more bucks, of course).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread magiccarpetride
brillo;616590 Wrote: I disagree. I think the Caiman's headphone section and amp are quite good. I've used it with AKG K702 and Sennheiser HD 650 headphones. It could be that my Grados are not that good to begin with (despite some positive reviews). I should probably try Caiman with AKGs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread Stratmangler
brillo;616590 Wrote: I disagree. I think the Caiman's headphone section and amp are quite good. I've used it with AKG K702 and Sennheiser HD 650 headphones. Ditto. I've used it with Goldring DR150s, and things sound pretty fine. Chris :) -- Stratmangler There is no element of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-03-08 Thread brillo
magiccarpetride;616595 Wrote: It could be that my Grados are not that good to begin with (despite some positive reviews). I should probably try Caiman with AKGs or Sennheisers? Which Grados do you have? In my opinion, the AKG K701s or K702s are a great value and sound incredible with the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DAC straight to amp volume attenuation

2011-03-08 Thread ob_kook
I recently decided to change my Duet from wireless to wired, and am very happy with the stability and the fact I can now easily listen to FLAC without a niggling worry in the back of my head of a drop out and re-buffering. As you can see from my signature, I run RCA through passive attenuation