Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
alright..im going to get this done tomorrow.. gonna need some help. what do you have, adam? acourate or? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
pski;688512 Wrote: This is not to be confused with current digital wiring. Such physics-based rings can not have an impact on a digital signal's quality. P sure they can, because even ASIO(that LMS does not even utilize in any way, shape or form) setup affects SBGKs system. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Equipment that measures beautifully but sounds bad???

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
pski;688510 Wrote: I think the originator was wondering about hardware. Philology: the ability to read well. no shit, hero. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a device to make internet radio streams sound better?

2012-02-04 Thread Mnyb
For laughs fallow the lampizator links :) it would ofcourse sound different but truly original some of his stuff have tube spdiff outputs ? ( why not steam ). I want upsampling with a peat powered difference engine ! Behringer is good value for money thou .. As they are. -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a device to make internet radio streams sound better?

2012-02-04 Thread Mnyb
Wombat;685667 Wrote: Upsampling can´t bring back anything the mp3 encoding kicked away. If it really changes the sound you even had a prove that upsampling is bad because it changes the sound :) This is correct if upsampling sound different it's broken -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread Soundman
superbonham;688349 Wrote: How did you manage to do the 'blinding'... Any suggestion on how to set up a blind test for these (and similar) settings is appreciated. superbonham We found a simple way to do this: 1. Two or more people are required to do the test: the operator and the listener(s).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread aubuti
Soundman;688560 Wrote: We found a simple way to do this: 1. Two or more people are required to do the test: the operator and the listener(s) and - of course - two devices (with and without mods). 2. The operator uses the mute-switch to turn the sound on and off and the input-selector to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread Soundman
TheOctavist;688445 Wrote: nobodys ears are golden enough to ID things that aren't there. :) Correct, but everyone's ears are good enough to hear things that are there. And the differences between a stock SBT and one with TT-mods are clearly there... no matter how many people here try to deny

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread Soundman
aubuti;688562 Wrote: But you're wrong 'to call it a DBT' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=688307#post688307) (and then to 'repeat' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=688328#post688328) the claim). Sorry for that. In that case I missunderstood the term DBT. Comes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread aubuti
Soundman;688564 Wrote: Sorry for that. In that case I missunderstood the term DBT. Comes to it that my native tongue is Swiss-German. However, the listeners and the op did not see each other and none of them was a hypnotist :) Sure, no foul. It's good to see at least someone apparently trying

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread Soundman
aubuti;688565 Wrote: Btw, I only know a tiny smattering of German, but isn't the German word almost identical (doppelblind)? You're right: the German word is Doppelblindtest. But I never got into this very deeply. As I understood it, I thought that it means that the tested persons never know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread Mnyb
The dbt is very popular in other areas of research like long term medical experiments, to avoid that the researcher himself is influencing things. That is not bomb proof either and is just as important afte the test as the data can be consuisly or unconsiusly doctored after the fact in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread SBGK
Phil Leigh;688546 Wrote: I use the ones available from Maplins... see here: http://www.maplin.co.uk/clip-on-ferrites-32799 there are different sizes for different diameter cables.I use one at each end of each ethernet and mains cable - and also on any DC cables from DC supplies (e.g.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread SBGK
TheOctavist;688554 Wrote: sure they can, because even ASIO(that LMS does not even utilize in any way, shape or form) setup affects SBGKs system. those tweaks were not specific to ASIO, they are standard Win 7 settings for improving memory management and allowing for more critical threads. You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread SBGK
have found 2 settings which do not improve the sound disabling flow control on the ethernet network adapter gives a harsh, shouty type of playback enabling PCI lock on boot advanced options gives a veiled sound don't know how this fits into nothing can affect the sound dogma. Apologies in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crackling only through server?

2012-02-04 Thread garym
mashley;688523 Wrote: Nope the problems still there. Damn, I'm concerned about doing a wipe and rebuild, I have wasted a weekend before trying to iron out problems from re-installing before. Any tips? confirm that you've isolated the issue as discussed above to be strictly related to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread chill
SBGK;688583 Wrote: don't know how this fits into nothing can affect the sound dogma. All this, yet pulling the ethernet cable makes no difference to the sound in your case. How do you explain it? How does the flow control setting have an effect when there's no flow? Just to be clear, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Equipment that measures beautifully but sounds bad???

2012-02-04 Thread darrenyeats
TheOctavist;687986 Wrote: more bass tracks-- angel- massive attack sawhney- anthem without nation the aforementioned guillou organ spectacular will REALLY torture a sub. the xx- fantasy I've listened to most of all the tracks you've listed (mostly via Spotify) and I can see why

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread darrell
SBGK;688583 Wrote: have found 2 settings which do not improve the sound disabling flow control on the ethernet network adapter gives a harsh, shouty type of playback enabling PCI lock on boot advanced options gives a veiled sound don't know how this fits into nothing can affect the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crackling only through server?

2012-02-04 Thread mashley
I'll try the laptop LMS route to start with wired and then wireless. Soldering cardas binding posts to my stats first to be continued -- mashley mashley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36549

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread dminches
Recently I have noticed that my Transporter is intermittently skipping to the next track while in the middle of the current track. It seems to be a bit random and I can't say it always happens on the same track. Regarding my setup, I am running SC 7.6.2 on a wired ethernet network. I also have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread Jeff Flowerday
When I close my eyes the speakers disappear. Not just visually (lol) but audibly. Having my eyes open messes all things up. I start thinking the sound image isn't centered because my room isn't perfectly symmetrical around my bay window. I'm slowly getting my pumpkin trained to ignore my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume Control Function under Digitial Output

2012-02-04 Thread bh2007
Squeezebox query One day I visited my freind's CAS setup Config * NAS + Squeezebox(digitial coaxial output) + Lavry DAC remote control by squeezebox server software. * I am very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread Archimago
Not seen this on my Transporter. Since the music is all being streamed off the server, I assume the Transporter must somehow be sending a message to the server to tell it to advance to next track? Even if the Transporter encounters a bad stream, I don't think it skips to the next track

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume Control Function under Digitial Output

2012-02-04 Thread Phil Leigh
bh2007;688639 Wrote: Squeezebox query One day I visited my freind's CAS setup Config * NAS + Squeezebox(digitial coaxial output) + Lavry DAC remote control by squeezebox server software.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crackling only through server?

2012-02-04 Thread Phil Leigh
This is extremely unlikely to be a server problem. Is the crackling on both channels? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread garym
and it never hurts to do a xlinx reset. remove power to transporter, point remote at transporter with 1 key held down, then restore power to transporter. You should eventually see xlinx reset on transporter menu. Then you can quit holding down the 1 key and just let the transporter finish

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-02-04 Thread mlsstl
darrell;688604 Wrote: But you refuse to even acknowlege that such bias could be affecting your personal perceptions. So who is being dogmatic? The irony is it seems to be the subjectivists who most consistently seem to deny that their perceptions could be influenced in any fashion by

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
is there a free convolver pkg? just asking...dont want to spend the dosh unless its gonna help a lot. if it does help,.ill pay for something nice -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread dminches
Archimago;688640 Wrote: Not seen this on my Transporter. Since the music is all being streamed off the server, I assume the Transporter must somehow be sending a message to the server to tell it to advance to next track? Even if the Transporter encounters a bad stream, I don't think it skips

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread dminches
Archimago;688640 Wrote: Long shot: Is someone using a remote controller nearby which is being interpreted by the Transporter as IR signal to track advance (try deactivating the remote controls from Settings - Player - Transporter/Remote I don't see where turn off the remote. Is this on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread garym
dminches;688688 Wrote: I don't see where turn off the remote. Is this on the transporter menu? I recall it is in SbS/LMS settings -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread Archimago
dminches;688688 Wrote: I don't see where turn off the remote. Is this on the transporter menu? Assuming you're using the default SqueezeServer/LMS interface. Go to Settings page. Click on Player tab up top. Select the Transporter device and to the right of it select the Remote menu. You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread Wombat
Never encountered that problem with my Transporter but maybe it is as simple as some dust in the knob of the skip button on the Transporter itself? You may press skip on the Transporter front multiple times for feeling a misfunction. Maybe worth a try. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) - RG142 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-04 Thread Phil Leigh
TheOctavist;688684 Wrote: is there a free convolver pkg? just asking...dont want to spend the dosh unless its gonna help a lot. if it does help,.ill pay for something nice Inguz IS a free convolver... And it is as good as it gets. If you can get it to work, it will also do the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread darrenyeats
In my experience, the answer to the question (Should one hear sound directly from the speakers) is that it depends on the recording. Also of relevance, I have found any loudspeaker will tend to image better in a bigger room. Regards, Darren -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread Wombat
When sitting in the sweet spot my speakers are not heard until the recording itself positions something directly there. So if you have recordings that don´t sound like content coming from the speakers on one system but it does on another system it is strange. Maybe the bigger speakers simply are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
Phil Leigh;688702 Wrote: Inguz IS a free convolver... And it is as good as it gets. If you can get it to work, it will also do the measurements... Ther are alternatives.z so it does all that room correction and whatnot? so to be clear, everything I need to get my room sorted (at least in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] which TT setting causes the chipmunks

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
? Just curious. want to disable that only for more testing, if possible.. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crackling only through server?

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
do you have a way to record this crackling? that would help identify the nature of it.. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] which TT setting causes the chipmunks

2012-02-04 Thread rgro
I believe it's disabling the analog output/enabling digital only that causes this with radio staiong using under 44.1 sample rates. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Issue

2012-02-04 Thread Archimago
One more thought... The Transporter along with older units like SB Classic, Boom, etc. have slower processing speed than the Touch. You may run into trouble if any of your music has been compressed with out-of-spec FLAC's. For example, FLACCL is capable of encoding up to compression level 11 I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] which TT setting causes the chipmunks

2012-02-04 Thread TheOctavist
gotya. so ill just enable analog. feck, what was that command again? -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(stock(TT failed dbt)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100