Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread Julf
SoftwireEngineer wrote: No, I have no interest in convincing anybody of anything. Fair enough - but it is still good to know if, when you state I can hear a difference, you have made any attempt to objectively verify your perception. Helps to put it in the right perspective.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread aubuti
Julf wrote: Just curious, did you set up a proper double-blind ABX test? SoftwireEngineer wrote: No, I have no interest in convincing anybody of anything. I think I have the lowest priced system of all the posters in this thread (but believe the performance of my system is way high and I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread guidof
aubuti wrote: Interesting point of view. I also value price-performance, which is exactly why I prefer to do blind testing as much as is practically possible if only to convince _myself_. Even if you don't go the DBT whole nine yards it is often easy to do a less rigorous, but still

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread maggior
Julf wrote: Fair enough - but it is still good to know if, when you state I can hear a difference, you have made any attempt to objectively verify your perception. Helps to put it in the right perspective. Doing this doesn't have to be hard - just revert back to your previous setup and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread aubuti
guidof wrote: That great wine sure tastes not so great out of a styrofoam cup . . . Agree 100%. Though it may still taste better than a crummy wine out of a styrofoam cup. Empirical question, more research needed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
maggior wrote: Doing this doesn't have to be hard - just revert back to your previous setup and replay what sounded different/better. A regular scenario with me is I'll listen to something after making a change (software, hardware, new headphones, new speakers...whatever) and think wow,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-01-25 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Re: double-blind testing - Earlier (10 yrs ago - before the kids) I used to have a little bit more time to play around with my system. Either, I get some friends to listen or even my wife to listen when I keep changing things (my wife has more musical skills than I do). Nowadays, too busy with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
The latest issue of The Absolute Sound (Issue 230, February 2013) features several reviews of some interesting equipment however the review of the Lamm ML2.2 Single-Ended Triode Amplier (monoblock at $37,290 per pair) by editor Robert Harley is not one them. The headline of the review asks the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ** High Bit-Rate MP3 Test Up! **

2013-01-25 Thread Archimago
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] psycho acoustics: the nightmare of listening tests

2013-01-25 Thread jvanhambelgium
Hi there, I do believe there are some very minor improvements to be made by changing for example the stock PSU adapter of the Touch with a better one ;-) We tested last week actually. A Touch with stock power and a ultra-lineair,battery driven solution. Together (3 of us) could hear a very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: The latest issue of The Absolute Sound (Issue 230, February 2013) features several reviews of some interesting equipment however the review of the Lamm ML2.2 Single-Ended Triode Amplier (monoblock at $37,290 per pair) by editor Robert Harley is not one them. The headline of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: Why are you torturing yourself like this and it is waste of energy and paper to print this stuff While it's true that reading TAS can at times be very similar to torture I do find it interesting to follow along as the latest audiophile trends are created out of thin air. For

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] psycho acoustics: the nightmare of listening tests

2013-01-25 Thread Julf
jvanhambelgium wrote: Together (3 of us) could hear a very subtile improvement Was that in a double-blind ABX setting? Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: While it's true that reading TAS can at times be very similar to torture I do find it interesting to follow along as the latest audiophile trends are created out of thin air. For example, the current craze over asynchronous USB and super low jitter is a DIRECT result of all

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: DSD itself is close to a scam , it's real value an effort to copy protection by obscurity sacd ripping is very rare . Not true. The older Sony PS3s featured digital output of SACDs and many people have used this feature to rip SACDs to DSD encoded tracks which are then convert to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: Not true. The older Sony PS3s featured digital output of SACDs and many people have used this feature to rip SACDs to DSD encoded tracks which are then convert to 24bit/88.2kHz PCM. A simple google search will give you lots of hits on where you find some of the these rips. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: I know about the ps3 trick maybe I have different ideas on what counts as rare , connecting a digital out to a soundboard with digital in (not everyone have this ) and playing the sacd in real time 40-70 minutes , use some software to snip it up in tracks etc looks like hours of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
Ok so the ps3 can make iso's , pity I don't have one if I play games I use my pc , but on the other hand I don't hav that many SACD hybrids either ,will investigate other sources for the files Mnyb's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: Ok so the ps3 can make iso's , pity I don't have one if I play games I use my pc , but on the other hand I don't hav that many SACD hybrids either ,will investigate other sources for the files And you can burn the iso files using a computer to a DVD which will then play as an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: And you can burn the iso files using a computer to a DVD which will then play as an SACD on some SACD players, such as the Oppo BDP-83. The list of tested SACDs players can be easily found. Unfortunately an SACD made from a PS3 derived iso file will sound vastly inferior

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for Mnyb

2013-01-25 Thread Mnyb
Yep the Dalby D7 at only 55k£ ish prices http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97505-Gold-Standard-in-Audio. Can we build a complete hifi that does not work and get it up to a million $ . The Dalby may be overqualified , there must be something similarly priced with really horrible