Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread Phil Leigh
mswlogo;420252 Wrote: files shoiuld not get that huge if they are just zeros as I would expect compression to remove most of it. If a DAC does some processing like dither and you tell it, it's 24bit when it's really 16bits of data it will skip it or do an improper job. If you run with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread mswlogo
files shoiuld not get that huge if they are just zeros as I would expect compression to remove most of it. If a DAC does some processing like dither and you tell it, it's 24bit when it's really 16bits of data it will skip it or do an improper job. If you run with fixed volume and all your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread mswlogo
Phil Leigh;420279 Wrote: Even with fixed volume, its still 24-bit out of the SB... If it's 16bit in with fixed volume it's essentially 16bit out. Least Significant Bits will be 0, and that's what you are basically telling the DAC, to ignore the 0's. If SB didn't allow 16bit bit-perfect

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread mswlogo
seanadams;420350 Wrote: ZIP might, but audio compression works differently. FLAC for eample has a run-length block type but that is to deal with identical samples, i.e. digital silence. There's no case to handle this kind of pattern and I don't see why you'd want one - if you think that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread seanadams
mswlogo;420356 Wrote: Sorry Sean the files will come out about the same. It does recognize essentially zero net new content. A huffman code scheme would do it. I did flac to flac to assure it's using the same version of flac. I did flac to 24bit wav to flac (same compression level default

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread seanadams
Mnyb;420361 Wrote: This must be a good strategy for saving space. Before the loudness war, there could be CD's that didn't use all 16bit's all the time ? If this so called subblocks (how many ms of sound is this ?) gets coded according to their actual bit depth, this must be a part of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread mswlogo
seanadams;420359 Wrote: Interesting... although I'm still not clear as to why it works. FLAC uses rice coding on a sample-by-sample basis, not a general byte-at-a-time huffman/dictionary/window scheme (which would be useless for audio). Makes me wonder if it's handled as a special case...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-03 Thread seanadams
mswlogo;420364 Wrote: That's cool. Did I earn a 2nd look by you at the ac power overflow thingy in the transporter :) i.e. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49157 Yes, I saw your post - a real bugger that one, I thought we'd seen the last of it... -- seanadams

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-02 Thread NewBuyer
Anne;419798 Wrote: ...The quality of music is in the mastering. Completely agree. :) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-01 Thread Phil Leigh
Radish is correct. The SB and TP internally upscale to 24-bit regardless of input bit-depth as part of the internal volume processing and they always output 24-bit via spdif if using an external DAC. Therefore there is no point at all in changing 16/44.1 files to 24-bit. It really IS a waste of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-05-01 Thread Anne
Agreed, just for fun I ripped an album with dbpoweramp in 24 bit. The files got huuuge, but there was no difference in sound quality. The quality of music is in the mastering. -- Anne Squeezebox 3 Stereovox XV2 Bryston B100-DA SST Martin Logan Aeon I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-04-30 Thread ste1
Seeking advice Does changing the bit depth on ones 16.44 flac files make a difference to sound quality? The reason I ask is that over on the Lavry forums, they recommend setting bit depth at 24bit regardless of what files you are outputting to get best sound quality from ripped CD files through

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-04-30 Thread Phil Leigh
ste1;419507 Wrote: Seeking advice Does changing the bit depth on one's 16.44 flac files make a difference to sound quality? The reason I ask is that over on the Lavry forums, they recommend setting bit depth at 24bit regardless of what files you are outputting to get best sound quality

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-04-30 Thread funkstar
ste1;419507 Wrote: Does changing the bit depth on one's 16.44 flac files make a difference to sound quality? You can't add what isn't there in the first place. PROCESSING audio at a higher bit depth is one thing, there is less chance of less that way, but ripping at a higher level that the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-04-30 Thread ste1
Phil Leigh;419512 Wrote: I fail to see how this could possibly work, since by default a spdif stream is 20 bits (not 16 or 24) with the LSB 4 bits set to zero. Sure you can set the extra 4 bits to zero making 16 bits of music and 8 bits of zero but... WHY? Don't know why - my secondary

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bit Depth?

2009-04-30 Thread radish
Squeezeboxes always output as 24-bit, because of the volume control (if the volume is set to 100% the LSB is of course 0). There's no reason at all to touch the files (unless you have disk space you need to fill up). -- radish