Well, just downloaded and played my first Linn recording -
La Guitarra Española - The Music of Santiago de Murcia - William
Carter
Default file was a 24/88 and I've loaded this, and a downsampled 24/44
(using Audacity 1.3) onto my NAS.
Played both without problem over my SB3 and I'm struggling
Pale Blue Ego;282297 Wrote:
Josh, you might consider adding 176.4KHz also. Reference Recordings
will soon be offering files at that sample rate.
This way lies madness. At what sample rate and bit depth should we
stop, or should we continue increasing it forever? The audiophiles (who
have
Josh Coalson;187979 Wrote:
I *hope* that's not the reason Linn went with WMAL instead of FLAC! are
the tracks DRMed?
anyway I am considering using one of the reserved codes (there are 3
left) in the frame header for 88.2KHz and letting it be in the subset.
as far as FLAC is concerned
The more I read, the more confused I get !
So can I simply download any Linn FLAC file (24 bit at either 44, 48,
88 or 96) and it will play on my SB3 ? I assume that the SB3 will
downsample the 88 and 96 to either 44 or 48 respectively.
If this is correct is there any point in buying Linn
liffy99;281706 Wrote:
The more I read, the more confused I get !
So can I simply download any Linn FLAC file (24 bit at either 44, 48,
88 or 96) and it will play on my SB3 ? I assume that the SB3 will
downsample the 88 and 96 to either 44 or 48 respectively.
If this is correct is there
But what if the only available FLAC file comes in 88 or 96 ?
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What about it ? If you have SlimServer it will play just fine.
There seem to be a problem with SqueezeCenter though, I get static
noise on top of the music, but the problem is reported and we hope for
a fix soon.
The SB3 will just throw out every other sample with the 96 kHz file.
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Anne
The digital output (sp dif) of my SB3 is connected to my outboard DAC.
Is there a way to get 24-bit / 96 kHz digital audio stream to the SB3's
digital output?
I know the SB3 DAC can't handle 96 kHz, but my outboard DAC can.
Anybody know if / how this can be done?
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milosz
Anne;191886 Wrote:
I dont see the AppleLossless codec in the configuration, does it have
another name ?
How about ALAC - Apple Lossless Audio Codec :)
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Just to try it I downloaded a Brahms album, this was in 24/44.1 though.
It downloaded fine and landed as a vlc file in My Music and SB3 plays
it fine.
Anyway, I have DBPowerAmp Batch and Music Converter, and I downloaded
the WMA option. Should I be able to convert this into AppleLossless so
I can
Anne;191827 Wrote:
Anyway, I have DBPowerAmp Batch and Music Converter, and I downloaded
the WMA option. Should I be able to convert this into AppleLossless so
I can store it in ITunes ?
Will the originals still be there afterwards ?
Yes, shouldn't be a problem. You'll have to install the
I dont see the AppleLossless codec in the configuration, does it have
another name ?
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Josh Coalson;187979 Wrote:
I *hope* that's not the reason Linn went with WMAL instead of FLAC! are
the tracks DRMed?
anyway I am considering using one of the reserved codes (there are 3
left) in the frame header for 88.2KHz and letting it be in the subset.
as far as FLAC is concerned
Veggen;182599 Wrote:
What the Linn man is saying is correct, flac has standardized codes for
the most commonly used sample rates, but it can support any sample rate
as described below.
From the flac site:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html
Again, since a decoder may start decoding
325xi;183326 Wrote:
Considering all things said in Resampling thread, I'm just wondering
what kind of sample rate conversions used in SB for downsampling?
As I recall based on my reading of Sean Adam's postings in the forums
(truely its worth reading all his back postings if this stuff
I found a 'another thread here'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32098) that claims to
have gotten this to work... but I am still not having any luck. I keep
ending up with white noise.
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Eric Carroll
Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4
SB3-Rotel
I am afraid I can not help regarding the wmal2pcm/audacity method, but
since you now have dbpoweramp why not use that that for all the
conversions?
First convert the original 88.2 wma to one 44.1 wma and one 96 wma.
Then convert these to flac. This is really fast and easy in dbpoweramp
and should
Eric,
you need to use WMA2LPCM to convert the Linn wma files to wavs. Then
audacity 1.3 can convert those to 24-bit FLACS (I do this at 44.1
because I only have an SB3)
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Phil Leigh;183062 Wrote:
Eric,
you need to use WMA2LPCM to convert the Linn wma files to wavs. Then
audacity 1.3 can convert those to 24-bit FLACS (I do this at 44.1
because I only have an SB3)
Yes, I have done that. See the 'post above'
Eric Carroll;183165 Wrote:
Yes, I have done that. See the 'post above'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=183025postcount=17). I
currently have 44 96 versions the test WMA in WAV FLAC format.
WAV causes 'some kind of crash in SS'
Big lesson: dont use softsqueeze to test. Its not the same as SB3 or
Tp.
The procedure I outlined above definately results in workable 24b
files. I need to further investigate using upsampled 96K or downsampled
44K.
The test files all successully play on both the Tp and the SB3.
'This
Eric Carroll;183227 Wrote:
Big lesson: dont use softsqueeze to test. Its not the same as SB3 or Tp
and appears to NOT support 24b.
'The procedure I outlined above'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=183025postcount=17)
definately results in workable 24b files. I need to further
Eric Carroll;183227 Wrote:
Big lesson: dont use softsqueeze to test. Its not the same as SB3 or Tp
and appears to NOT support 24b.
'The procedure I outlined above'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=183025postcount=17)
definately results in workable 24b files. I need to further
Veggen;183251 Wrote:
On my SB3 the wma files play fine using wmadec as described earlier,
but it does convert to 16/44, so better to use flac.
I can't transcode on my slimserver box (not enough CPU) so it went
through native at 96 KHz and played. But of course the SB3 is dropping
every
Considering all things said in Resampling thread, I'm just wondering
what kind of sample rate conversions used in SB for downsampling?
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Eric Carroll;182529 Wrote:
Has anyone actually got the Linn 88.2 files to work in ANY manner? How
did you do it?
Do you mean played in SB/TP or in general?
Here is what works for me.
Linn 88.2kHz/24bit WMA
Native in Windows Mediaplayer, Creative MediaSource, feeding an
external DAC confirms
Eric Carroll;182698 Wrote:
Linn suggests downsampling to 44.1 then converting to FLAC, not
upsampling to 96... I am working my way to trying that
Well, it comes down to what will give the least degradation of the
hi-rez format, and if you are actually able to hear the difference.
Downsampling
While beating my head against the 'HDCD ripping problem'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32967) I got all the
tools needed to test the Linn test file.
dbpoweramp shows that the test file is in fact a 88.2/24b file.
I did the following:
- Importing WAVEX format to audacity
- set
Veggen;182897 Wrote:
Upsampling to 96kHz on the other hand is more complex, and needs more
sophisticated algorhitms, but if done properly it will retain better
the resolution of the original. So for use with a Transporter would be
my choice.
Do you know of any easily available tools for
Linn Records has pointed out to me that FLAC doesn't appear to support
88.2 KHz sample rate. This is commentary based on the FLAC help files.
- A flac file is split up into an arbitrary number of frames. Each
frame has sufficient information in the header to allow a decoder to
decode from
What the Linn man is saying is correct, flac has standardized codes for
the most commonly used sample rates, but it can support any sample rate
as described below.
From the flac site:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html
Again, since a decoder may start decoding at an arbitrary frame in the
Veggen,
Thanks for more pieces of the puzzle, I was just diving into the FLAC
documentation myself.
We have reports that 88.2 files play but half speed. We also have
reports the test files show as 44.1 in some programs. So, I wanted to
confirm the tets files as 88.2 so we can know for sure if
Interesting article - does that mean that given the choice of second
hand original CD and a new 'remastered' CD one should always go for the
original cut (eg the 1990 version of Joe Jackson Look Sharp vs 2001
remastered) ?
I always thought that 'remastered' implied new and improved recording
Veggen;182183 Wrote:
I did some testing using the 24 bit 88.2kHz wma lossless test file from
the Linn site:
http://download.linnrecords.com/recit24bit.wma
I am confused. mediamonkey says this file is 44.1 not 88.2...
How do you know its 88.2?
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Eric Carroll;182269 Wrote:
I am confused. mediamonkey says this file is 44.1 not 88.2...
How do you know its 88.2?
Yes, I noticed the same...
Windows Media Playes says this:
Windows Media Audio 9.2 Lossless
VBR Quality 100, 88 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit 1-pass VBR
But Foobar thinks it's 44.1
I'm quite sure when writing Foobar etc, they never assumed WMA lossless
to be higher quality than 44.1kHz/16 bit.
There are a few other programs that recognises the Linn files as
88.2kHz/24 bit when applicable, such as Creative MediaSource and Ease
Audio Converter for example.
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johann
Eric Carroll;182269 Wrote:
I am confused. mediamonkey says this file is 44.1 not 88.2...
How do you know its 88.2?
Yes I noticed that in mediamonkey too, must be a bug.
However both winamp and dbpoweramp reports it as 24bit 88.2kHz, and
thats what Linn claims too, so I am pretty convinced.
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