Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-16 Thread arnyk
andy_c wrote: > Many of the exalted high-end gurus have an interesting story associated > with them. They tend to be "child prodigies" who have been designing > audio equipment since the age of 12 or so, yet never managed to obtain a > degree in engineering, physics or mathematics. This failure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-16 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: > Fascinating denial of human perception as being fallible? I assume these people build their houses without using measuring tapes or straight edges - as their eyesight provides an absolute reference too... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-15 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: > That is the point where you know any logical or factual arguments are > useless. If somebody is firmly convinced their perception is infallible, > trying to reason with them is about as useful as trying to reason with a > creationist or somebody who believes the pyramids were built

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-15 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: > Fascinating denial of human perception as being fallible? That is the point where you know any logical or factual arguments are useless. If somebody is firmly convinced their perception is infallible, trying to reason with them is about as useful as trying to reason with a cre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-15 Thread toby10
Archimago wrote: > Strange... And this is somehow "more reasonable and productive." Some "believe" so, yes. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-14 Thread Archimago
Well, another week, more kvetching on the site... Another poorly argued position. Not even sure what that position is other than something about "bits are bits" people (whoever they are; -everyone -with objective leanings?) presumably being wrong. And that saying a subjectivist "believes" somethi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-11 Thread andy_c
Many of the exalted high-end gurus have an interesting story associated with them. They tend to be "child prodigies" who have been designing audio equipment since the age of 12 or so, yet never managed to obtain a degree in engineering, physics or mathematics. This failure is seen as an advantag

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-11 Thread RonM
ralphpnj wrote: > The latest insights from the finge: > > http://www.audiostream.com/content/ab-test-audiostream-readers#Mb90mqpyt3JDowiK.97 > > http://www.audiostream.com/content/listening-ethernet#Qm1PEiqXwEVUpHPZ.97 > > Seems to me that Mr. Lavorgna is getting just a bit touchy. Perhaps > l

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-10 Thread ralphpnj
bonze wrote: > He gets an honourable mention in the comments... > Amongst all the 'bits are not bits', 'anyone that understands IT doesn't > listen to music', etc. etc. Not only does the sainted JS get mentioned but there is also a saintly quote: > And here are all three parts of my Q&A with Jo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-10 Thread bonze
ralphpnj wrote: > Yes but they failed to cite the sainted JS! He gets an honourable mention in the comments... Amongst all the 'bits are not bits', 'anyone that understands IT doesn't listen to music', etc. etc. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-10 Thread ralphpnj
arnyk wrote: > If you read both articles, Lavorgna cites Atkinson as his unimpeachible > authority, and Atkinson cites Lavorgna. > > Proof by authority is a well known error, and now you've two of them. > > This is just a game of audio publication 3 card Monte. > > Next! Yes but they failed

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-10 Thread arnyk
ralphpnj wrote: > The latest insights from the fringe: > > http://www.audiostream.com/content/ab-test-audiostream-readers#Mb90mqpyt3JDowiK.97 > > http://www.audiostream.com/content/listening-ethernet#Qm1PEiqXwEVUpHPZ.97 > > Seems to me that Mr. Lavorgna is getting just a bit touchy. Perhaps >

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Put on your hip waders

2015-09-10 Thread ralphpnj
The latest insights from the finge: http://www.audiostream.com/content/ab-test-audiostream-readers#Mb90mqpyt3JDowiK.97 http://www.audiostream.com/content/listening-ethernet#Qm1PEiqXwEVUpHPZ.97 Seems to me that Mr. Lavorgna is getting just a bit touchy. Perhaps little old Toto has been pullng ba