chinablues;158566 Wrote:
Is the Denon 3805 such a weak link in this set-up? ie keep the Denon as
the pre-amp add something like the Rotel 1095?
Well, maybe not weak, but I'd say you certainly can do better. I opted
for the RB1090 as my focus was on the stereo part, and I figured the
Denon
Thanks for the response. The biggest problem for me here in China is
finding the stuff. According to Rotel web site, the nearest dealer is
in Hong Knog. I'll check the BW dealer here as BW seem to have some
link up with Rotel. Certainly at 75lbs, it would be kinda tough to
carry back to
jmourik;158614 Wrote:
PS. I just noticed the rb1090 disappeared from the Rotel web site. I
did read somewhere that they might be working on a followup. Maybe
that's why I could get it for a discount at the clearance center :-)
Rotel is heavily into the class D technology at moment.
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I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
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jmourik;158294 Wrote:
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club. Just a few questions.
Are you using the Denon
jmourik;158294 Wrote:
I added a Rotel RB1090 to power the BW speakers. Sounds quite nice.
Though I must admit that the Classe amp sounded even better, but that
one was more than twice as expensive :-)
One of the problems of revealing speakers is that they really do
respond to the $$$ that
The 803s are nice speakers. They certainly look nice, too.
jmourik;144243 Wrote:
Well, I did :-) I really like them, went to listen to them yesterday and
bought a pair today. Also listened to some other speakers, vandersteen
model 2 and 3, Linn, McIntosh. Didn't like them as much as I did
Here is an unortodox upgrade:
Take a music appreciation class, learn a bit about theory etc.
the most revealing sytem is the brain knowing what to hear(look) for
Pretty cheap upgrade too:-)
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tomsi42;158301 Wrote:
Congratulations. Welcome to the Rotel club.Thank you :-)
tomsi42;158301 Wrote:
Are you using the Denon as a pre-amp? Should be interesting to compare
that to the Rotel RC-1070 pre-amp.Yes, Denon is pre-amp and used for the
surround channels. I did actually
hear a
Interesting thread for me. Thanks to all the contributors. I have BW
804 mains center + BW 805 rears for the AV part. Also a Velodyne
DD15 sub. Just added a Transporter. But running it all off a Denon 3805
AVR. For TP into the 3805 I normally run in 'pure stereo' mode. I first
heard the BW's
highdudgeon;143651 Wrote:
Don't get hung up on BW's.
Well, I did :-) I really like them, went to listen to them yesterday
and bought a pair today. Also listened to some other speakers,
vandersteen model 2 and 3, Linn, McIntosh. Didn't like them as much as
I did the BW, the sound of the 803 just
I always forget the model number! I checked and they are model 753.
Ideally, I'd like to hear them next to the bw 803s, to really judge
the difference...
Thanks all for your input!
jan
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Don't get hung up on BW's. Except for the top of the line -- and even
then -- there are better, more neutral speakers for the same or less
money.
Adamslim's advice is good: find a system you and work toward that.
Meanwhile, recognize that the greatest variable, by far, are your
speakers.
highdudgeon;143651 Wrote:
Look at Dali, Harbeth, Quad, and Gradient for speakers with superb
linearity.
Although to calm him down again, I agree that you could do a lot worse
than any of these :D
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mkozlows;143115 Wrote:
The speakers will completely overwhelm any other differences you might
have. I say, find a pair of speakers you like, get them, and then find
stuff that works well with those speakers.
I agree that the speakers have the most character, in most systems, but
still
jmourik;142658 Wrote:
I'm looking into upgrading my system, but don't know where to start...
Current system:
- Denon AVR-4800
- Mission 776 speakers, BW center and surround speakers
- SB2
- Toshiba dvd player
Considering:
- Outlaw (990 or 970) + 7125? or 1070???
- Maybe new front
I wouldn't consider the SB3 an upgrade if you already have an SB2.
Also, the DAC in the Transporter wouldn't make a difference when run
through the Denon, unless in 2 channel bypass mode.
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Yes, didn't make that clear, the sb2 is really in my bedroom, but I move it to my main system on occasion. Which is too much hassle, so I want an sb3 or transporter.I haven't done any contact cleaning, no. Or fancy cabling...
jan
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jmourik;142658 Wrote:
- Denon AVR-4800
- Mission 776 speakers, BW center and surround speakers
- SB2
- Toshiba dvd player
Were I in your situation, I would separate the audio from the AV -
that's my angle: I use a stereo system with an 8' projector :)
So that would involve getting a
Is there an amp you can plug more than one thing into? (SB + pre-outs of
an HT system's L/R, for instance)
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joncourage;142824 Wrote:
Is there an amp you can plug more than one thing into? (SB + pre-outs of
an HT system's L/R, for instance)
I would probably suggest an integrated, as the volume might be useful
with the SB2. Although I have not yet tried to determine the sonic
impact of the digital
Good reminder about the vol control on the SB. Thanks.
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jmourik;142658 Wrote:
I'm looking into upgrading my system, but don't know where to start...
Current system:
- Denon AVR-4800
- Mission 776 speakers, BW center and surround speakers
- SB2
- Toshiba dvd player
Interesting... I have a very similar set up. Denon AVR-4802 and
Mission
I guess the question is what are you trying to acomplish and at what $$$
Everything you have and I'm not trying to be rude is pretty mid fi (
except the Denon which is a good home theater receiver , but not a
great sounding amplifier) if I was trying to redo the system I'd start
with auditioning
i'm trying to go from mid fi to mid + fi. this system will be used for
both stereo and home theater. from the components i'm considering you
can see how much i'm willing to pay! thanks for the suggestions!
On 10/4/06, ErikM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the question is what are you trying
Start with the speakers! ( front mains first) Lots of good ones..
Vandersteen, Proac, BW, Thiel, Focal, Dynaudio.. Just to name a few..
Once you find the ones you love add electronics that compliment them,
not just drive them. Then source, then cables, and powerline
conditioning. The trick to a
Audio reproduction is only as good as its weakest link, so deciding what
to upgrade depends on which component is most limiting your current
system.
In my own systems over the decades, speaker upgrades have made the most
obvious improvements. The magnitude of difference between various
speakers
jan van mourik;142822 Wrote:
Yes, didn't make that clear, the sb2 is really in my bedroom, but I move
it
to my main system on occasion. Which is too much hassle, so I want an
sb3 or
transporter.
I haven't done any contact cleaning, no. Or fancy cabling...
jan
No! No fancy cabling!
My advice is the same to anyone: find a complete system that you just
fall in love with, and work towards that. If you just audition one
component at a time, you will never stop upgrading.
There are huge differences between systems, so listen to as many as you
can, and you will find one that
adamslim;142915 Wrote:
My advice is the same to anyone: find a complete system that you just
fall in love with, and work towards that. If you just audition one
component at a time, you will never stop upgrading.
That's kind of my problem... I -think- I want the outlaw 990/7125 + bw
803s, but
jmourik;143094 Wrote:
That's kind of my problem... I -think- I want the outlaw 990/7125 + bw
803s, but I can't go to a shop and listen to that combination. Of
course I can listen to the 803s, but the outlaw is internet only. So I
don't know really where to start. Shall I order the outlaw,
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