Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread Jeff Flowerday
When I close my eyes the speakers disappear. Not just visually (lol) but audibly. Having my eyes open messes all things up. I start thinking the sound image isn't centered because my room isn't perfectly symmetrical around my bay window. I'm slowly getting my pumpkin trained to ignore my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread darrenyeats
In my experience, the answer to the question (Should one hear sound directly from the speakers) is that it depends on the recording. Also of relevance, I have found any loudspeaker will tend to image better in a bigger room. Regards, Darren -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-04 Thread Wombat
When sitting in the sweet spot my speakers are not heard until the recording itself positions something directly there. So if you have recordings that donĀ“t sound like content coming from the speakers on one system but it does on another system it is strange. Maybe the bigger speakers simply are

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread vett93
I often read reviews that claim speakers disappeared in the room. My interpretation is that they couldn't tell the sound were directly from the speakers. I'd like to hear comments on this subject. On my main system, I can hear sound directly from the speakers. The center image is very clear for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread mashley
I had a pair of BW 601's and they were superb little speakers and I had much the same experience as you. It wasn't until I changed to Magnepan MMG's and then Quad ESL63's that I could get them to entirely disappear it depends on the recording as to where the instruments are placed. YMMV --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread castalla
quote/ I'd like to hear comments on this subject. unquote/ At 17 K a pair they should do more than just disappear -- castalla 1 Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purfek! 1 Logitech Radio + remote - purfek!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread pski
vett93;688468 Wrote: I often read reviews that claim speakers disappeared in the room. My interpretation is that they couldn't tell the sound were directly from the speakers. I'd like to hear comments on this subject. On my main system, I can hear sound directly from the speakers. The

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread vett93
My question is: should one hear sound directly from speakers? Or should the speakers disappear as some reviewers put it? I am not sure that speakers should disappear with the right setup. I use a test CD from Chesky Records and there is a track to caliberate audio images. It seems to suggest

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread w3wilkes
Geez, this is such a subjective area! For instance the alarm clock on Dark Side of the Moon always startles me even though I know it's coming. ELO's Wild West hero always gives me goosebumps. I guess I tend to get somewhat lost in the music rather than paying attention to where it's coming from.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread Mnyb
mashley;688473 Wrote: Try putting your main speakers in your second system in the same position to see how that sounds, you will probably find room placement is what's going on here. +1 To close to side walls or stuff inbetween the speakers ? If you have you hifi rack between try to have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread audiomuze
In my setup I find I only hear the speakers if they're toed-in too far i.e. the tweeters are both pointing directly to where your head would be in your listening position. In my setup it makes the soundstage quite narrow with a lot of stuff coming from the speakers rather than being placed in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Should one hear sound directly from speakers?

2012-02-03 Thread Phil Leigh
To answer the original question... it depends entirely on what the speaker designer was aiming to achieve. There is no right or wrong here; some speakers are designed to try and offer pinpoint imaging, others aim for a more diffuse soundfield. Some are just odd (Bose, Sonabs, Linn 'Bariks etc)