[aur-general] Fix the Bylaws?

2010-12-04 Thread Kaiting Chen
Apparently there are some people who think the bylaws are broken. On another readthrough it seems to me that the entire document could be streamlined substantially, and definitions could be made more explicit (especially in the matter of activity versus inactivity). In addition it is my personal o

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar take 2

2010-12-04 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Christopher Brannon wrote: > Ionuț Bîru writes: > >> 2) no commits in community since the addition. >> >> 3) he's not marked as inactive and conform bylaws this deviates from >> the "above", above being, 5 days discussion period + 7 voting. Because >> of that i'm s

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar take 2

2010-12-04 Thread Christopher Brannon
Ionuț Bîru writes: > 2) no commits in community since the addition. > > 3) he's not marked as inactive and conform bylaws this deviates from > the "above", above being, 5 days discussion period + 7 voting. Because > of that i'm starting a 3 days discussion period and 5 days voting. If he had eve

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar take 2

2010-12-04 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2010/12/4 Laurent Carlier : > Le samedi 4 décembre 2010 23:58:33, Ionuț Bîru a écrit : >> hi, >> because of my lack of understanding of bylaws and failing to comply with >> them on my first proposal, i like to take the chance and redo the >> proposal, following letter by letter the removing procedu

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2010/12/4 Ray Rashif : > On 5 December 2010 06:46, Ionuț Bîru wrote: >> we are all nerds and not layers and we are not in a judge curt to follow, >> bylaws letter by letter > > The bylaws are what empower us to act upon and make decisions - it's > not about following the laws word by word. Without

Re: [aur-general] Non-native English speakers and the AUR by-laws [WAS: removal proposal for Ranguvar]

2010-12-04 Thread Xyne
PyroPeter wrote: > On 12/05/2010 12:44 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 07:22 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: > >> On 5 December 2010 06:46, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > >>> we are all nerds and not layers and we are not in a judge curt to follow, > >>> bylaws letter by letter > >> > >> The bylaws

Re: [aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html > > I've noticed that there have been a few cases relatively recently where > people don't really understand the bylaws. > > I'd like to encourage all Trusted Users to read over the bylaws > pe

Re: [aur-general] Non-native English speakers and the AUR by-laws [WAS: removal proposal for Ranguvar]

2010-12-04 Thread PyroPeter
On 12/05/2010 12:44 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 07:22 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: On 5 December 2010 06:46, Ionuț Bîru wrote: we are all nerds and not layers and we are not in a judge curt to follow, bylaws letter by letter The bylaws are what empower us to act upon and make deci

Re: [aur-general] voting period for Dave Reisner

2010-12-04 Thread Dave Reisner
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:39:13AM +0100, PyroPeter wrote: > On 12/04/2010 07:29 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > >Hi, > > > >the 5 days discussion period have ended. > > > >http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=42 > > > > 42! > Yup, that's right. 42. Vote wisely, gentlemen. We may very well unfold the mean

Re: [aur-general] voting period for Dave Reisner

2010-12-04 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 05.12.2010 01:39, PyroPeter wrote: > On 12/04/2010 07:29 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the 5 days discussion period have ended. >> >> http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=42 >> > > 42! > 1.40500612 × 10^51

Re: [aur-general] voting period for Dave Reisner

2010-12-04 Thread PyroPeter
On 12/04/2010 07:29 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: Hi, the 5 days discussion period have ended. http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=42 42! -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Re: [aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Shacristo
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/05/2010 01:06 AM, Loui Chang wrote: >> >> On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:44 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: >>> >>> On 12/05/2010 12:25 AM, Loui Chang wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html I've noticed that there ha

[aur-general] Non-native English speakers and the AUR by-laws [WAS: removal proposal for Ranguvar]

2010-12-04 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 07:22 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote: > On 5 December 2010 06:46, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > we are all nerds and not layers and we are not in a judge curt to follow, > > bylaws letter by letter > > The bylaws are what empower us to act upon and make decisions - it's > not about followi

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ray Rashif
On 5 December 2010 06:46, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > we are all nerds and not layers and we are not in a judge curt to follow, > bylaws letter by letter The bylaws are what empower us to act upon and make decisions - it's not about following the laws word by word. Without them, we wouldn't take ourselve

Re: [aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/05/2010 01:06 AM, Loui Chang wrote: On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:44 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 12/05/2010 12:25 AM, Loui Chang wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html I've noticed that there have been a few cases relatively recently where people don't really understand the b

Re: [aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:44 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/05/2010 12:25 AM, Loui Chang wrote: > >http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html > > > >I've noticed that there have been a few cases relatively recently where > >people don't really understand the bylaws. > > > >I'd like to encour

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar take 2

2010-12-04 Thread Laurent Carlier
Le samedi 4 décembre 2010 23:58:33, Ionuț Bîru a écrit : > hi, > because of my lack of understanding of bylaws and failing to comply with > them on my first proposal, i like to take the chance and redo the > proposal, following letter by letter the removing procedure. > > Conform bylaws a motion p

[aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar take 2

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
hi, because of my lack of understanding of bylaws and failing to comply with them on my first proposal, i like to take the chance and redo the proposal, following letter by letter the removing procedure. Conform bylaws a motion procedure should be sent on aur-general with reasons. Here are

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/05/2010 12:32 AM, Loui Chang wrote: On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:15 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: maybe i lack the understanding of words and to quote from bylaws: "The removal of a Trusted User may also occur at any time. A motion must be made by at least two active Trusted Users for the removal o

Re: [aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/05/2010 12:25 AM, Loui Chang wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html I've noticed that there have been a few cases relatively recently where people don't really understand the bylaws. I'd like to encourage all Trusted Users to read over the bylaws periodically to make s

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:15 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > maybe i lack the understanding of words and to quote from bylaws: > > "The removal of a Trusted User may also occur at any time. > > A motion must be made by at least two active Trusted Users for the removal > of a Trusted User. (THIS IS ME)

[aur-general] Understanding the Trusted User Bylaws

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
http://aur.archlinux.org/trusted-user/TUbylaws.html I've noticed that there have been a few cases relatively recently where people don't really understand the bylaws. I'd like to encourage all Trusted Users to read over the bylaws periodically to make sure that they fully understand the procedure

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
On Sun 05 Dec 2010 00:15 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/05/2010 12:07 AM, Loui Chang wrote: > >On Sat 04 Dec 2010 23:59 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > >>On 12/04/2010 11:53 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > >>>On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/05/2010 12:07 AM, Loui Chang wrote: On Sat 04 Dec 2010 23:59 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 12/04/2010 11:53 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang wrote: On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: I'm waiting to see

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
On Sat 04 Dec 2010 23:59 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/04/2010 11:53 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: > >On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang wrote: > >>On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > >>>On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > I'm waiting to see your replies and then ac

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/04/2010 11:53 PM, Ray Rashif wrote: On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang wrote: On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them. i don't see this being discuss any further and all

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ray Rashif
On 5 December 2010 05:46, Loui Chang wrote: > On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: >> On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: >> > >> >I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them. >> > >> >> i don't see this being discuss any further and all messages have been only >>

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/04/2010 11:46 PM, Loui Chang wrote: On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them. i don't see this being discuss any further and all messages have been only in one direction. i m

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Loui Chang
On Sat 04 Dec 2010 22:19 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > > >I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them. > > > > i don't see this being discuss any further and all messages have been only > in one direction. > > i modified his account on aur

Re: [aur-general] delete packages (mostly svn and cvs)

2010-12-04 Thread Joao Cordeiro
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote: > Am 04.12.2010 16:40, schrieb Joao Cordeiro: > > Done, many thanks! > Some more: 1) qutim-svn [1.1], qutim-plugin-kde-integration-svn [1.2], qutim-plugin-icq-svn [1.3], qutim-plugin-jabber-svn [1.4], qutim-plugin-mrim-svn [1.5] were replace

Re: [aur-general] removal proposal for Ranguvar

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/03/2010 12:06 AM, Ionuț Bîru wrote: I'm waiting to see your replies and then act based on them. i don't see this being discuss any further and all messages have been only in one direction. i modified his account on aur to normal user. Ranguvar, i'm sorry for this and when you'll hav

[aur-general] DELREQ for several gtk2/gnome/glib perl packages

2010-12-04 Thread Justin Davis
I sent a delete request awhile ago but I haven't heard a response. In case it didn't send properly here it is again. These perl packages are already provided in the [extra] repository and due to naming confusion were uploaded to the AUR. I adopted these as the aurperl user when they were orphans. I

Re: [aur-general] delete packages (mostly svn and cvs)

2010-12-04 Thread Stefan Husmann
Am 04.12.2010 16:40, schrieb Joao Cordeiro: > Some time ago I noticed that (obviously) there are several *-svn aur > packages that no longer make sense because they were changed to git > upstream. After a little thinking I came up with a list of all *-svn and > *-cvs packages and made a script to c

[aur-general] voting period for Dave Reisner

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
Hi, the 5 days discussion period have ended. http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=42 -- Ionuț

Re: [aur-general] deletion request: geogebra_dl

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/04/2010 07:53 PM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23281 seems to be an old version of geogebra. it is orphaned. latest package is geogebra (3.2.45.0) or even geogebra-beta. so this one, geogebra_dl stucked at 3.0.0 could be deleted. delete. thanks -- Io

Re: [aur-general] deletion request: arista-bzr

2010-12-04 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 12/04/2010 03:52 PM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote: hi. From what I understand arista is on a git server. so arista-bzr is outdated. and could be removed. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25876 There is currently an arista-devel package but it should be better renamed arista-git. what's

[aur-general] deletion request: geogebra_dl

2010-12-04 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=23281 seems to be an old version of geogebra. it is orphaned. latest package is geogebra (3.2.45.0) or even geogebra-beta. so this one, geogebra_dl stucked at 3.0.0 could be deleted.

Re: [aur-general] Tarball Guidelines

2010-12-04 Thread PyroPeter
On 12/04/2010 03:16 AM, Simon Stoakley wrote: The day was 03/12/10 21:24 when , Xyne had this to say..: On 2010-12-03 20:33 +0100 (48:5) Stefan Husmann wrote: Am 03.12.2010 19:46, schrieb keenerd: Officially, the tarballs uploaded to the AUR should be named after their package, contain a

[aur-general] delete packages (mostly svn and cvs)

2010-12-04 Thread Joao Cordeiro
Some time ago I noticed that (obviously) there are several *-svn aur packages that no longer make sense because they were changed to git upstream. After a little thinking I came up with a list of all *-svn and *-cvs packages and made a script to check if said packages have a corresponding -git pack

[aur-general] deletion request: arista-bzr

2010-12-04 Thread solsTiCe d'Hiver
hi. >From what I understand arista is on a git server. so arista-bzr is outdated. and could be removed. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25876 There is currently an arista-devel package but it should be better renamed arista-git. what's the way to go ? arista-devel is acceptable as a nam

Re: [aur-general] Remove request

2010-12-04 Thread Jakob Gruber
On 12/04/2010 01:07 PM, jesse jaara wrote: Please remove: openoffice.org-voikko http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29139 A new pkg called voikko-openoffice was created to that the name would be similar to voikko-libreoffice suomi-malaga http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29138 A ne

[aur-general] Remove request

2010-12-04 Thread jesse jaara
Please remove: openoffice.org-voikko http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29139 A new pkg called voikko-openoffice was created to that the name would be similar to voikko-libreoffice suomi-malaga http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29138 A new pkg called suomi-malaga-voikko was created

Re: [aur-general] Orphan request

2010-12-04 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:05 AM, jesse jaara wrote: > Following packages have been out-of-date for a some time now > suomi-malaga > libvoikko > enchant-voikko > mozvoikko > openoffice.org-voikko > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29725 > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9525 > ht

[aur-general] Orphan request

2010-12-04 Thread jesse jaara
Following packages have been out-of-date for a some time now suomi-malaga libvoikko enchant-voikko mozvoikko openoffice.org-voikko http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29725 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9525 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=30563 http://aur.archlinux.org/pa