[aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Laws
Hi, In light of the mass deletion of many orphaned as well as not-really-orphaned packages, it would be nice if there were a way to get a log of AUR activity so that users other than just a package's maintainers can see that a package disappeared at some given point. It was also mentioned that

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: For packages not migrated, I don't think there is a repo there. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Git_repository ?

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 11:54, Mark Laws escreveu: In light of the mass deletion of many orphaned as well as not-really-orphaned packages They were really orphaned. And it was warned that orphaned packages would be deleted on Aug 8th. , it would be nice if there were a way to get a log of AUR activity

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Mark Laws
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Karol Blazewicz karol.blazew...@gmail.com wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository#Git_repository ? I was wondering if there was something like this. Thanks! Cheers, Mark Laws -- |v\ /\ |\ | |_ /\ \^| //

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Jens Adam
Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:09:51 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com: They were really orphaned. And it was warned that orphaned packages would be deleted on Aug 8th. nitpick The announced (and executed) deletion was about stale AUR3 metadata (migrated packages that weren't 'git push'ed)

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Justin Dray
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 at 04:20 Doug Newgard scim...@archlinux.info wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:07:57 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 12-08-2015 15:01, Doug Newgard escreveu: On the contrary, this is exactly the mechanism for that. You disown a package so that

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Justin Dray
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:01 Sam S. sml...@gmail.com wrote: Note that we do keep the Git repositories of deleted packages, so if anybody wants to maintain the package later, he can always clone the repository of the deleted package, fix the package and simply push it afterwards Can you

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Sam S.
Note that we do keep the Git repositories of deleted packages, so if anybody wants to maintain the package later, he can always clone the repository of the deleted package, fix the package and simply push it afterwards Can you give some details on that? For example the libtiff4 package

Re: [aur-general] My Packages Disappeared

2015-08-12 Thread Maciej Sieczka
W dniu 11.08.2015 o 20:00, Jens Adam pisze: They didn't disappear - they got deleted. You got at least two mails informing about the AUR v4 reorganisation and pending deletion of not migrated packages, the mailing lists were full of it, plus there had been a prominent notice on the (old) AUR

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Bruno Pagani
Le 12 août 2015 07:51:28 GMT+02:00, Justin Dray jus...@dray.be a écrit : On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 at 15:37 Rob McCathie korr...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/15 13:49, Doug Newgard wrote: In my case, I have some that I'm actively trying to get maintainers for; in the mean time, I'm looking after

[aur-general] Signoff report for [community-testing]

2015-08-12 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [community-testing] === https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ There are currently: * 14 new packages in last 24 hours * 0 known bad packages * 0 packages not accepting signoffs * 0 fully signed off packages * 16 packages missing signoffs * 0 packages older than 14

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 12:42, Jens Adam escreveu: Our main issue here is about orphaned PKGBUILDs that got manually deleted after the transition was over. But these were migrated to and then orphaned on the new AUR right? I don't think that it was wrong to hide these when the subdomain migrated on Aug

Re: [aur-general] My Packages Disappeared

2015-08-12 Thread Maciej Sieczka
W dniu 11.08.2015 o 20:00, Jens Adam pisze: They didn't disappear - they got deleted. You got at least two mails informing about the AUR v4 reorganisation and pending deletion of not migrated packages, Where those emails sent directly to each maintainer's email, or to AUR mailing list only?

Re: [aur-general] My Packages Disappeared

2015-08-12 Thread Jens Adam
Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:31:54 +0200 Maciej Sieczka msiec...@sieczka.org: W dniu 11.08.2015 o 20:00, Jens Adam pisze: They didn't disappear - they got deleted. You got at least two mails informing about the AUR v4 reorganisation and pending deletion of not migrated packages, Where those

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Jens Adam
Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:54:31 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com: I don't think that it was wrong to hide these when the subdomain migrated on Aug 8th. That wasn't what happened. Read the thread(s) again - a single TU went around and deleted a bunch of freshly orphaned packages,

Re: [aur-general] My Packages Disappeared

2015-08-12 Thread Marcel Korpel
* Maciej Sieczka msiec...@sieczka.org (Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:31:54 +0200): W dniu 11.08.2015 o 20:00, Jens Adam pisze: They didn't disappear - they got deleted. You got at least two mails informing about the AUR v4 reorganisation and pending deletion of not migrated packages, Where those

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 06:05, Lukas Fleischer escreveu: Maybe you could at least add yourself as a co-maintainer for now. Or if you are really *actively* trying to find new maintainers, it probably wouldn't hurt if you were listed as a maintainer until you find somebody. I had some dependencies issues

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Sam S.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Lukas Fleischer lfleisc...@archlinux.org wrote: Wikipedia defines orphan as [...] a child whose parents are dead or have abandoned them permanently ...but new parents may want to adopt them, if given the opportunity. Deleting *long-time* orphaned

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Newgard
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:05:08 +0200 Lukas Fleischer lfleisc...@archlinux.org wrote: I consider this a slight abuse of the orphan/disown functionality. Oh, and I also wanted to point out that this is just one use-case. There are others, such as the v8 package that was recently dropped from

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Newgard
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:05:08 +0200 Lukas Fleischer lfleisc...@archlinux.org wrote: I consider this a slight abuse of the orphan/disown functionality. Wikipedia defines orphan as [...] a child whose parents are dead or have abandoned them permanently. In my opinion, orphan packages

Re: [aur-general] Deletion of orphaned packages on AUR4

2015-08-12 Thread DerBaer
So maybe we need to improve the way changing maintainership works. Having a Give up for adoption button (that keeps the current maintainer while allowing anybody to adopt the package) in addition to Disown is one possibility. What is the point of the disown button then, if it does the same

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Newgard
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:07:57 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 12-08-2015 15:01, Doug Newgard escreveu: On the contrary, this is exactly the mechanism for that. You disown a package so that someone else can adopt it. Why else would you disown a package? Let me

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 14:10, Jens Adam escreveu: That wasn't what happened. Read the thread(s) again - a single TU went around and deleted a bunch of freshly orphaned packages, nothing to do with the migration. I really don't see the issue here, even if is this that happened. They were orphaned,

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Newgard
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:17:12 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 12-08-2015 14:10, Jens Adam escreveu: That wasn't what happened. Read the thread(s) again - a single TU went around and deleted a bunch of freshly orphaned packages, nothing to do with the migration. I

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Newgard
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:54:56 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: We already have a mechanism for disowning a package and allowing others to maintain it without deleting it. It's called orphaning. This is not the mechanism for that, and it is the reason why the

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 15:01, Doug Newgard escreveu: On the contrary, this is exactly the mechanism for that. You disown a package so that someone else can adopt it. Why else would you disown a package? Let me rephrase it. Disowning a package isn't the mechanism for allowing others to maintain a

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Justin Dray
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 at 03:17 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 12-08-2015 14:10, Jens Adam escreveu: That wasn't what happened. Read the thread(s) again - a single TU went around and deleted a bunch of freshly orphaned packages, nothing to do with the migration. I really

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 14:42, Justin Dray escreveu: Perhaps seeing active comments or that the packages had to have been updated within month since everything was cleared for AUR4? Comments aren't the best way. A package can work so well as to not have any comments for a long time. Or is simple enough

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 12-08-2015 14:21, Justin Dray escreveu: But by 'hidden' it also deletes all comments and votes, and stops people being able to search for the package, see that it isn't maintained and picking it up. Well, the TU could have waited, I give you that. Almost all of my packages have become

Re: [aur-general] AUR activity log?

2015-08-12 Thread Justin Dray
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 03:36 Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 12-08-2015 14:21, Justin Dray escreveu: But by 'hidden' it also deletes all comments and votes, and stops people being able to search for the package, see that it isn't maintained and picking it up. Well, the TU