[aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Det via aur-general
Why hell, Since the maintainer is throwing his tantrum, I decided it would be good to ask the mailing list directly, should "pepper-flash" [1] be renamed to e.g. "flashplugin-ppapi"? This would be more in line with the official package extra/flashplugin [2] and also the s

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:33:26 +0200, Det via aur-general wrote: >Since the maintainer is throwing his tantrum, I decided it would be >good to ask the mailing list directly, should "pepper-flash" [1] be >renamed to e.g. "flashplugin-ppapi"? People who still want to contribute on the bad thing that w

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread DJ Lucas
On 11/13/2016 02:33 AM, Det via aur-general wrote: I decided it would be good to ask the mailing list directly, should "pepper-flash" [1] be renamed to e.g. "flashplugin-ppapi"? No. That has historically been the name. Anyone who is already familiar with flash on Liunx is likely to use "pepper

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Det via aur-general
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:42 AM, DJ Lucas wrote: > > No. That has historically been the name. Anyone who is already familiar > with flash on Liunx is likely to use "pepper" as a search term. > Yes, but that's a non-issue because the default is to search by "Name, Description". Same with (Oracle)

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 11/13/2016 03:33 AM, Det via aur-general wrote: > Why hell, > > Since the maintainer is throwing his tantrum, I decided it would be good > to ask the mailing list directly, should "pepper-flash" [1] be renamed > to e.g. "flashplugin-ppapi"? > > This would be more in line

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Det via aur-general
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Eli Schwartz via aur-general < aur-general@archlinux.org> wrote: > > So, in the mailing list you give your actual reasoning, *after* giving a > cryptic comment in the AUR comments and being rejected, and rightly so, > as a crank. That reasoning is pretty obvious.

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread WebDawg via aur-general
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:33:26 +0200, Det via aur-general wrote: >>Since the maintainer is throwing his tantrum, I decided it would be >>good to ask the mailing list directly, should "pepper-flash" [1] be >>renamed to e.g. "flashplugin-ppapi"? >

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 11/13/2016 02:01 PM, Det via aur-general wrote: > That reasoning is pretty obvious. Debatable... but thanks for actually (finally) spelling out your reasons in your initial post here, rather than simply assuming everyone thinks the way you do. I could think of a bunch of arbitrary names, not j

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 13:45:42 -0600, WebDawg via aur-general wrote: >IMO people still need flash to do stuff so I do not know why you would >remove it. While most of us still may hate flash they have decided to >support it again: >http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/adobe-announced-will-restart-supp

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:12:56 -0500, Eli Schwartz wrote: >I could think of a bunch of arbitrary names, not just pepper-flash or >flashlugin-ppapi. Since "PPAPI" is for "pepper plugin application programming interface" it makes sense to stay with "pepper" and adding "flash" is useful, because it exp

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread DJ Lucas
On 11/13/2016 02:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: IMO it would be better to drop all flashplayer related packages from AUR, as well as from the official repositories. While I agree with you on principal, it's an unrealistic expectation. You can't expect a small business, who paid $1000s to a deve

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-13 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 2016-11-13 21:12, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > On 11/13/2016 02:01 PM, Det via aur-general wrote: >> That reasoning is pretty obvious. > > Debatable... but thanks for actually (finally) spelling out your reasons > in your initial post here, rather than simply assuming everyone thinks >

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-14 Thread Det via aur-general
After all this unclarity (especially concerning issues 2 years ago), I think some things might need some clarity. I mean, I guess this really needs summing up... :D (also, sorry about the garbled plain text replies. Just now realized/remembered (hope so) how to do that right in Gmail) On 2016-11-

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-14 Thread Eli Schwartz via aur-general
On 11/14/2016 05:51 AM, Det via aur-general wrote: > I'm sorry but that's bogus. Not only did I ask repeatedly because I > wanted to get an answer, but since he gave me _none_, I asked the > mailing list instead. Wanting to get an answer is not inherently a problem. It does, however, show that you

Re: [aur-general] "pepper-flash" naming?

2016-11-15 Thread Det via aur-general
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > ... Eli, if you have things to tell me that you feel you need to get off your chest, do so privately. Ranting on this thing back and forth in [aur-general] is useless, stupid and futile. My email is right there.