Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-20 Thread Vitaliy Berdinskikh
Good day all. Bob, I don't understand you. I use your packages. You delete these and I can't update these on my computer any more. :( -- Sincerely yours, Vitaliy Berdinskikh (Виталий Бердинских) UR6LAD

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Allan McRae
w9ya wrote: In fact Daenyth did NOT place my packages into the AUR after removing them from the binary repo. I have the transcripts from the TU irc channel where we discussed this very thing. But this remains a reliance on a detail that CANNOT have *any* bearing since a TU has the right to

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
Allan; NO ONE hid anything from you at any point. And that is not going on now either. Had you bothered to ask first you would have found out that ALL of these particulars you bring up below and elsewhere were discussed at length, including the removal of the packages and their disposition.

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Allan McRae
Bob, At this point I really don't care what your opinion is. I got your packages from [community] into the AUR and you can no longer remove them. So I have achieved that I set out to do today. If other TUs have problems with my methods then they will bring it up themselves. Allan

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:42 AM, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: SNIPPED I have not left the TU irc channel, and will not be a contributor any further. Bob Finch OOOPS; I meant to say I HAVE left the TU irc channel !!! Bob F.

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 04:42:07AM -0700, w9ya wrote: Finally Allan also did say this in his first email that started this thread: FACT : only Trusted Users can delete packages from the AUR . I was a TU when I asked Daenyth to remove my community repo packages. This was NOT violation

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Allan McRae
w9ya wrote: FACT : Daenyth wrote this to Allan in reference to Allan's question about what was going on: He said before that he was planning to resign, (He equals me.) FACT: Planning does not equate to doing. FACT: Attempting to remove all traces of your packages just because you wrote

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Daenyth Blank
FWIW, I'd like to clarify that the ones removed from community were not added to the AUR at all, as he asked that we wait until his repo was set up before doing so. The ones I referred to him deleting from unsupported were the ones which had never been in community, and which only he had

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.comdaenyth%2ba...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I'd like to clarify that the ones removed from community were not added to the AUR at all, as he asked that we wait until his repo was set up before doing so. The ones I referred to him

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 04:42:07AM -0700, w9ya wrote: Finally Allan also did say this in his first email that started this thread: FACT : only Trusted Users can delete packages from the AUR . I was a TU

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:55 AM, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: Allan's removal of my ability to access the AUR You should still be able to access the AUR and upload. Allan did not delete your account.

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Thayer Williams
Gentlemen, Little if any good can come from this debate. You both did what you felt was necessary at the time. You each may not agree with the others methods, however the net result is the same. Let us remain civil and leave it at. Thayer

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 08:55:55AM -0700, w9ya wrote: Yes there will be a problem going into the future and Allan's removal of my ability to access the AUR assures that will take place. SInce I did NOT remove anything from the AUR and stil lhave NOT to date, his unilateral action will mean

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
Allan has removed any chance of my hosting a separate repo as per Aaron G.'s and my own personal wishes because I no longer have access to the AUR. As Daenyth has already told you, the plan was to replace the PKGBUILDs into the AUR upon my resignation. What no one has asked yet, but which we

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:47, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: i deleted NOTHING from AUR. Bob Finch That was my misunderstanding then. For some reason I interpreted it that way. I was referring to around this: (Dec 4th)18:06:06 bfinch Daenyth, i have disowned those packages that I did not

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:31 AM, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: Allan has removed any chance of my hosting a separate repo as per Aaron G.'s and my own personal wishes because I no longer have access to the AUR. I'm still at a loss here. Why can you not access the AUR? Allan didn't delete your

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.comdaenyth%2ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:47, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: i deleted NOTHING from AUR. Bob Finch That was my misunderstanding then. For some reason I interpreted it that way. I was

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:11:25AM -0700, w9ya wrote: Yes Daenyth this was from the TU irc channel,.. and **then** we went on to talk about field additions to (try to) prevent; A - Someone removing my name to enter theirs as contributor.. ala an additional commented field caled Original

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:31 AM, w9ya w...@qrparci.net wrote: Allan has removed any chance of my hosting a separate repo as per Aaron G.'s and my own personal wishes because I no longer have access to the AUR. I'm

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Amanai
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:36:47 -0800, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote: fix this and move on Kindergarten!

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread w9ya
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:11:25AM -0700, w9ya wrote: Yes Daenyth this was from the TU irc channel,.. and **then** we went on to talk about field additions to (try to) prevent; A - Someone removing my name to enter

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-19 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think no one is protesting your removal? Think about it for a moment why don't you? I'll tell you. People are sick of you. People are sick of your disrespect, sick of your self importance, your incompetence and

[aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread Allan McRae
Hi TUs, Bob deleted all his packages from the AUR using his Trusted User powers. This is in complete violation of the principle behind the restriction that only Trusted Users can delete packages from the AUR and I believe is enough to warrant the removal of Bob as a TU. As you would have

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread w9ya
Allan; A - Your attempt to make my pending resignation something to be decided by a vote has succeeded in validating, in the simplest of examples, my belief that the TU system is in the process of deteriorating. Allan, a resignation should ALWAYS be treated with the utmost respect. It should NOT

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread Loui Chang
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:43:15PM -0700, w9ya wrote: B - Your unilaterally removing my access without this vote having taken place first was NOT your decision to make. Because; I agree that was wrong. So please consider this email my resignation. albeit a day earlier than anticipated. vy

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread Allan McRae
w9ya wrote: Allan; A - Your attempt to make my pending resignation something to be decided by a vote has succeeded in validating, in the simplest of examples, my belief that the TU system is in the process of deteriorating. Allan, a resignation should ALWAYS be treated with the utmost

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread w9ya
Allan; In fact Daenyth did NOT place my packages into the AUR after removing them from the binary repo. I have the transcripts from the TU irc channel where we discussed this very thing. But this remains a reliance on a detail that CANNOT have *any* bearing since a TU has the right to remove a

Re: [aur-general] TU Removal - Bob Finch

2008-12-18 Thread w9ya
Callan,.,... please read closely the message I posted as the second message in this thread. Then read my most recent message in this thread. It's explained therein. If you need further details...please feel free to contact me. i..e Please do not rely on others for an explanation of what I did.