Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Daniel Micay
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Eric Waller wrote: > I have tried to stay out of this in that I am not a TU and my input carries > no official weight. I am, however, a moderator on the forums and a > professional with significant experience in the field of trust, so I hope > you give me some cre

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Eric Waller
I have tried to stay out of this in that I am not a TU and my input carries no official weight. I am, however, a moderator on the forums and a professional with significant experience in the field of trust, so I hope you give me some creed. I find your argument to have no basis in fact and to be

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Daniel Micay
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > The current (majority) voting system is fine -- making decisions based > on consensus agreement is not a suitable method for the TU selection > process (it would needlessly raise the bar for something that is not a > matter of public safe

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Connor Behan
On 24/03/13 12:30 PM, Xyne wrote: > Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > >>> Objections were raised and then countered with arguments. If anyone felt >>> that >>> the objections were still valid after that then they should have replied >>> with >>> their reasons. That is the point of the discussion peri

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 25 March 2013 03:30, Xyne wrote: > Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > >>> Objections were raised and then countered with arguments. If anyone felt >>> that >>> the objections were still valid after that then they should have replied >>> with >>> their reasons. That is the point of the discussion p

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Xyne
Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> Objections were raised and then countered with arguments. If anyone felt that >> the objections were still valid after that then they should have replied with >> their reasons. That is the point of the discussion period: to discuss the >> issues and reconsider them i

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Xyne wrote: > Don deJuan wrote: > >>> There were objections! You consider them not sufficient to leads to this >>> result. >>> Everything that needed to be said has been said. After the voters have >>> made up their minds. > > Objections were raised and then count

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread member graysky
I unsubscribed from the ML so I'm not 100 % sure that this message will nest itself under Xyne's reply[1]. I would appear to be a polarizing force based on the votes; I wouldn't be comfortable joining the TU group given the more or less 50/50 split reflected in the data. To my supporters, I'd lik

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 24 March 2013 04:42, Xyne wrote: > If a TU has an objection that he cannot support publicly then something is > very > wrong. The application process should not be some mysterious black box of > negative, baseless opinions. If a TU would rather keep an objection to himself > than risk offendin

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread Xyne
Don deJuan wrote: >> There were objections! You consider them not sufficient to leads to this >> result. >> Everything that needed to be said has been said. After the voters have >> made up their minds. Objections were raised and then countered with arguments. If anyone felt that the objections

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-24 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 10:23 PM, Don deJuan wrote: > > From a non TU's perspective D.R. was the only one who could > publicly state why greysky should not be a TU, and the rest of the > sheeple just followed the "old and grumpy" man, at least that is > "public

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Don deJuan
On 03/23/2013 09:59 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Xyne wrote: >> Xyne wrote: >> @TUs >> The discussion period for this application was relatively short with very few >> participating TUs. The only real objections were raised by Dave (who even >> admitted that h

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Xyne wrote: > Xyne wrote: > @TUs > The discussion period for this application was relatively short with very few > participating TUs. The only real objections were raised by Dave (who even > admitted that he may be "old and grumpy") and they were addressed without

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Xyne
Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: >On 23 March 2013 17:51, Xyne wrote: >> @TUs >> Voting "no" rather than abstaining indicates that you have reasons to reject >> the candidate. These should have been brought up during the discussion >> period. >> If they are valid then other TUs should be made aware of the

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Stefan Husmann
Am 23.03.2013 18:51, schrieb Xyne: Xyne wrote: The discussion period for graysky's application is over. It's time for the TUs to vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=68 The voting period has ended. The finally tally was yes: 12 no: 14 abstain: 4 Quorum has been met. I am sorry to announce

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 23 March 2013 17:51, Xyne wrote: > @TUs > Voting "no" rather than abstaining indicates that you have reasons to reject > the candidate. These should have been brought up during the discussion period. > If they are valid then other TUs should be made aware of them and take them > into > account

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Christos Nouskas
On 23 March 2013 19:51, Xyne wrote: > The voting period has ended. The finally tally was > > yes: 12 > no: 14 > abstain: 4 > > Quorum has been met. I am sorry to announce that the application has been > rejected. I certainly didn't see this coming: I can't believe so many TUs voted "NO" without

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Ike Devolder
Op zaterdag 23 maart 2013 17:51:42 schreef Xyne: > Xyne wrote: > >The discussion period for graysky's application is over. > >It's time for the TUs to vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=68 > > The voting period has ended. The finally tally was > > yes: 12 > no: 14 > abstain: 4 > > Quorum has

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread SanskritFritz
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:01 PM, member graysky wrote: > > Thanks for supporting the application, Xyne, and to those who > participated in the subsequent discussion. I was really happy to have > read the kind words from some of the the non-TUs who posted in support > of me as well. Thanks guys!

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread member graysky
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Xyne wrote: > Xyne wrote: > >>The discussion period for graysky's application is over. >>It's time for the TUs to vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=68 > > The voting period has ended. The finally tally was > > yes: 12 > no: 14 > abstain: 4 > > Quorum has been

Re: [aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-23 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: >The discussion period for graysky's application is over. >It's time for the TUs to vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=68 The voting period has ended. The finally tally was yes: 12 no: 14 abstain: 4 Quorum has been met. I am sorry to announce that the application has been reject

[aur-general] TU application from graysky - voting period

2013-03-16 Thread Xyne
The discussion period for graysky's application is over. It's time for the TUs to vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu/?id=68