Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-07 16:52 +0200 Sébastien Luttringer wrote: >> After my previous reply I spent a little time thinking about the current >> bylaws >> and our notions of activity. I have posted a message to the list with a >> modified version of the bylaws to begin a discussion (i.e. the version I have >

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
Dave Reisner wrote: >Keenerd launched his bot before he was even a TU. His decision to do so >made him reconsider his application for the cooldown period before >re-applying. If he spoke to anyone about it on IRC it was with me over >private messages. There was zero involvement from any Arch assoc

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Xyne wrote: > Angel Velásquez wrote: > >>Supa easy, open the TU panel at the AUR, check who voted and who didn't >>on the lasts SVP (the last three or more if you want) .. make some >>decision about it, yeah we made the quorum but still, what about these >>people th

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Dave Reisner
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 02:23:54PM +, Xyne wrote: > On 2013-08-07 14:30 +0200 > Florian Pritz wrote: > > >On 07.08.2013 13:33, Xyne wrote: > >> I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of > >> relevant > >> discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that chann

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 7 August 2013 20:11, Angel Velásquez wrote: > Supa easy, open the TU panel at the AUR, check who voted and who didn't > on the lasts SVP (the last three or more if you want) .. make some > decision about it, yeah we made the quorum but still, what about these > people that is marked as active,

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-07 14:30 +0200 Florian Pritz wrote: >On 07.08.2013 13:33, Xyne wrote: >> I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of >> relevant >> discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that channel. Sometimes >> even >> important decisions are made there. > >I l

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
Angel Velásquez wrote: >Supa easy, open the TU panel at the AUR, check who voted and who didn't >on the lasts SVP (the last three or more if you want) .. make some >decision about it, yeah we made the quorum but still, what about these >people that is marked as active, do packaging stuff but are w

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Florian Pritz
On 07.08.2013 13:33, Xyne wrote: > I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of relevant > discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that channel. Sometimes even > important decisions are made there. I like IRC because it allows you to decide on a basic direction.

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Angel Velásquez
On 07/08/13 08:33, Xyne wrote: > On 2013-08-02 15:40 -0300 > Angel Velásquez wrote: > >> Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used >> just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff >> like quorum and removal procedures, some TUs look to othersid

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
On 2013-08-02 15:40 -0300 Angel Velásquez wrote: >Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used >just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff >like quorum and removal procedures, some TUs look to otherside when we >mention this subject. Can you m

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: >Lukas Fleischer wrote: > >>The only difference is that a new active TU appearing during the vote >>results in an overvalued quorum if the number is computed at the >>beginning (and if the TU votes), whereas an active TU disappearing >>during the vote results in an overvalued quorum if

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-07 Thread Xyne
Lukas Fleischer wrote: >The only difference is that a new active TU appearing during the vote >results in an overvalued quorum if the number is computed at the >beginning (and if the TU votes), whereas an active TU disappearing >during the vote results in an overvalued quorum if the number is >com

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-05 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 5 August 2013 07:00, Lukas Fleischer wrote: > I don't really like the idea of having to specify an exact end date. If > you are inactive due to, say, a long hospital stay or a lack of an > internet connection after moving you will have to update the end date > continuously. Being inactive usual

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-04 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 06:32:57AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > On 4 August 2013 21:35, Lukas Fleischer wrote: > > Trying to automate this, I just submitted a couple of AUR patches to > > aur-dev [1]. > > > > Based on this, we could: > > > > * Add another simple patch that simply displays whe

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-04 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 4 August 2013 21:35, Lukas Fleischer wrote: > Trying to automate this, I just submitted a couple of AUR patches to > aur-dev [1]. > > Based on this, we could: > > * Add another simple patch that simply displays whether a vote is > accepted or not. This leaves no room for discussion on the res

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-04 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 05:45:04PM +0200, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Lukas Fleischer > wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 03:40:53PM -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: > >> Hi people, > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are bei

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-04 Thread Sébastien Luttringer
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Lukas Fleischer wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 03:40:53PM -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: >> Hi people, >> >> [...] >> >> Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used >> just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-04 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 03:40:53PM -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: > Hi people, > > [...] > > Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used > just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff > like quorum and removal procedures, some TUs look to others

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-02 Thread Rashif Ray Rahman
On 3 August 2013 02:40, Angel Velásquez wrote: > Hi people, > > First of all, i'm writting this mail as an ex TU and user, not as a dev > who want to push you how to proceed or follow the bylaws. > > Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used > just for addition process

Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-02 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Angel Velásquez wrote: > Hi people, > > First of all, i'm writting this mail as an ex TU and user, not as a dev > who want to push you how to proceed or follow the bylaws. > > Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used > just for addition

[aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws

2013-08-02 Thread Angel Velásquez
Hi people, First of all, i'm writting this mail as an ex TU and user, not as a dev who want to push you how to proceed or follow the bylaws. Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff like quorum an