Re: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:03 PM 18/11/02 +1100, you wrote: > I have asked myself a number of times in relation to moving one >performance point on a particular glider type's polar curve at one >wingloading to the corresponding point at a different (higher or lower) >wingloading using the square root of the winglo

Re: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Cleaver
At 18:03 18-11-02 +1100, you wrote: I have asked myself a number of times in relation to moving one performance point on a particular glider type's polar curve at one wingloading to the corresponding point at a different (higher or lower) wingloading using the square root of the wingloading ratio

Re: [aus-soaring] contact Peter Buskins

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin McGowan
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Re: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:38 PM 19/11/02 +1100, you wrote: > Roger > > You are absolutely correct here - angle of attack is the thing that you >can control. > Working from Lift = CL 1/2 rho Vsquared S, if you increase the weight by a >factor of 1.44 (a not unrealistic figure) then you must, all other things >being equ

[aus-soaring] Help Please

2002-11-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Can anyone, anywhere, tell me how to contact the owner of a Diamont 16.5, VH-GEC based at Alice Springs. Telecom has no recorded phone number for the registered owner Owen David Jones at Kurragong Drive in Alice Springs. Any details on the owner or the Form 2 inspector that did the Form 2 on

Re: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Pete
> Cl has a linear, one to one relationship with AOA for most of the AOA > range however there have been cases where there is some hysteresis in > both lift and drag and values of Cl and Cd can depend on whether the > AOA was increasing or decreasing to the value of interest. That's interesting.

RE: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Andrew Fry
Pete, It's no myth, but it can be subtle and shows-up most strongly at high power and angle-of-attack (eg final approach.) If you think of a lift/drag curve, there is a hump in the centre. So there is usually two points on the curve which correspond to the lift you need, one at low AoA (and low

Re: [aus-soaring] Help Please

2002-11-19 Thread Jason Armistead
Andrew GFA extracts a modest fee for each Form 2 that's completed. Presumably amongst the paperwork sent to the GFA are the details of the owner and inspector. Suggest you give GFA a call. Otherwise, a call to the Club secretary / president of Alice Springs Gliding Club may reveal some furth

RE: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Dawber, Ken
The fact that there are two points on the curve with the same lift isn't my idea of hysteresis. To get hysteresis, as used in electronics, the whole curve would have to shift depending upon whether the plane reached a point on the curve by slowing the plane to that speed or by increasing the pl

Re: [aus-soaring] Help Please

2002-11-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
Thanks Jason. You are quite right. I got in contact with Mike Valentine at the GFA and he had the answers to all my question. "Problem solvered" PS Once again the GFA has come to the rescue. In every dealing I have with the GFA I am very impressed with the level of service I get

RE: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA)
> -Original Message- > From: Dawber, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > If gliders were subject to hysteresis, I would like to know > if it was better to slow the glider to a particular speed or > to increase to that speed. Does anyone know from the actual > evidence of hysteresis? >

RE: [aus-soaring] Polar Curves at different wingloadings

2002-11-19 Thread Andrew Fry
Stephen, I'd have to look at some curves to confirm the mechanism, but there is definitely a "step" at cruising speeds. In a C172 at cruise power (23" from memory) you'll get at around 100k when you've got things right - and about 95k if not. I was trained to check the airspeed and push the nose

[aus-soaring] Gawler Week and SA State Champs

2002-11-19 Thread ANDREW WRIGHT
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[aus-soaring] Nationals Team Ready

2002-11-19 Thread Bob Powell
The 2003 Australian National Multi-Class Gliding Championships will be held at Benalla from 2nd to the 15th of February. The classes for this competition will be: Standard, 15 metre, 18 metre and Open. There will be League Two counterparts for each of these classes. Our organisational team,

RE: [aus-soaring] Nationals Team Ready

2002-11-19 Thread Catherine Conway
> Check out the new GCV web site for more details. > www.gliding-benalla.org.au > http://www.gliding-benalla.org/ works better. -Cath -- * You are subscribed to the aus-soaring mailing list. * To Unsubscribe: send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * with "unsubscribe aus-soaring" in the body o